Proving A = B if A -> B and B -> A and A and B are Fuzzy sets

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The discussion centers on proving that two fuzzy sets A and B are not equal (A ≠ B) even if A is a subset of B and B is a subset of A. The user references the definitions of fuzzy sets as established by Lotfi Zadeh, emphasizing that membership in fuzzy sets is not binary. The proof provided demonstrates that if A = B, then it leads to a contradiction, confirming that A and B must be distinct when they are not classical sets. The user seeks clarification on the definitions of fuzzy sets and the validity of their reasoning.

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Need help proving A != B if A -> B and B -> A and A and B are Fuzzy sets

Homework Statement



Let X be the universe of discourse where x [tex]\in[/tex] X. Let A and B be non-empty fuzzy sets in X. If A and B are not classical sets then A [tex]\subseteq[/tex] B and B [tex]\subseteq[/tex] A is not sufficient enough to show that A = B.

This is what I'm trying to solve I think I wrote it correctly but if it needs rewording please let me know.

Homework Equations



If A [tex]\subseteq[/tex] B then A(x) [tex]\leq[/tex] B(x)
A'(x) = 1 - A(x)
(A [tex]\cap[/tex] B)(x) = min{A(x), B(x)}

The Attempt at a Solution


Proof: Assume A = B. This means that A and B share every element in common. If A = B then the evaluation of (A' [tex]\cap[/tex] B)(x) = min(1-A(x), B(x)) = 0. But min(1-A(x), B(x)) = 0 only when for all x such that, A(x) = B(x) = 1. This means A and B are classical sets but it is established by the hypothesis that A and B are not classical sets. So A [tex]\neq[/tex] B if A [tex]\subseteq[/tex] B and B [tex]\subseteq[/tex] A and A and B are not classical sets.

This is what I reasoned but I'm not feeling confident about this if I'm going about it the right way. If there is anything wrong with it I would really like to know.
 
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Exactly what definition of "fuzzy sets" are you using? There are several equivalent definitions and exactly how you prove something like this depends upon which you are using.


Also note that your title, "A != B if A -> B and B -> A" is NOT the same as "A [itex]\subseteq[/itex] and BA [itex]\subseteq[/itex] A is not sufficient to prove A= B".
 
I am using the definition of fuzzy sets as defined by Zadeh as being generalizations of classical sets where membership and non-membership is not clearly defined.
 

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