Proving Cyclic Group Order as Power of Prime

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The problem involves proving that a finite group G, where every pair of subgroups H and K satisfies either H ⊆ K or K ⊆ H, is cyclic and has an order that is a power of a prime.

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  • The original poster attempts to reason about subgroup containment and its implications for the structure of G, questioning how the order of G relates to prime powers.
  • Some participants suggest examining the properties of conjugate subgroups and the implications of having multiple prime factors in the order of G.
  • There is a question raised about the applicability of the same conditions to infinite groups and whether they imply cyclicity.
  • One participant discusses the contradiction arising from having subgroups of different prime orders, leading to the conclusion that G must be of prime power order.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various aspects of subgroup relationships and the implications for the structure of G. Some hints and clarifications have been provided, but there is no explicit consensus on the final argument or proof structure.

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Participants are navigating the implications of subgroup properties under the given conditions, with some noting potential mistakes in reasoning and clarifying the relationships between elements and their generated subgroups.

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Suppose for all subgroups [tex]H,K[/tex] of a finite group [tex]G[/tex], either [tex]H \subset K[/tex] or [tex]K \subset H[/tex]. Show that [tex]G[/tex] is cyclic and its order is the power of a prime.

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I think I get the intuition: if [tex]H[/tex] and [tex]K[/tex] are not the same, then one of them must be the trivial subgroup and the other must be [tex]G[/tex] itself. So if [tex]g \in G[/tex] but [tex]g \notin H[/tex], then [tex]\left\langle g \right \rangle[/tex] is a subgroup containing [tex]g[/tex], so by hypothesis, [tex]H \subset \left\langle g \right \rangle[/tex]. From here I want to show that [tex]H[/tex] is actually the trivial subgroup. No idea yet about the power of a prime thing. Can anyone provide a hint? Thanks!
 
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Your intuition is not quite correct. Suppose H is a proper subgroup of G. Consider the subgroups H_g=gHg^(-1) for g in G. What's the containment relation between H and H_g? What kind of a subgroup is H? This should be enough of a hint to get you started. For the prime thing, if p and q are prime factors of G, then we know there are subgroups Hp and Hq of order p and q respectively. What is their containment relation?
 
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There is a minor mistake. You should have said, [tex]G[/tex] is a non-trivial group.
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My Own Question: If the same conditions apply for an INFINITE group G, does the it mean it is cyclic? (Possibly Zorn's Lemma).
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Here is the answer to your question.
Say [tex]p\not = q[/tex] are two primes dividing [tex]G[/tex]. By Cauchy's theorem there are subgroups [tex]H \mbox{ and }K[/tex] respectively so that [tex]|H|=p \mbox{ and }|K|=q[/tex]. But how can (without lose of generality) [tex]H\subseteq K[/tex] since all its non-identity elements are of order [tex]p[/tex] while all the non-identity elements of [tex]K[/tex] are of order [tex]q[/tex]. A contradiction. Hence two distint primes do not divide [tex]G[/tex]. And so [tex]|G|=p^n[/tex]. Now we show that [tex]G\simeq \mathbb{Z}_{p^n}[/tex]. Assume that [tex]G[/tex] is not cyclic. Let [tex]a\not = e[/tex] be any element, then [tex]\left< a \right>[/tex] does not exhaust [tex]G[/tex] by assumption. So choose [tex]b\in G \mbox{ with }b\not \in \left< a \right>[/tex] and construct [tex]\left< b \right>[/tex]. But hypothesis [tex]\left< a \right> \subseteq \left< b\right> \mbox{ or }\left< b \right> \subseteq \left< a\right>[/tex]. But that is a contradiction. Q.E.D.
 
I made a mistake in my other post when I said [tex]\left< a \right> \subseteq \left< b\right> \mbox{ or }\left< b \right> \subseteq \left< a\right>[/tex] is a contradiction. It is not. It however means that [tex]\left< a\right> \subseteq \left< b \right>[/tex] since [tex]b\not \in \left< a \right> \implies \left< b\right> \not \subseteq \left< a\right>[/tex]. Thus, [tex]\left< a\right> \subset \left< b \right>[/tex]. So we can choose [tex]c\in G \not \in \left< b \right>[/tex] to get [tex]\left< a\right> \subset \left< b \right> \subset \left< c\right>[/tex]. Thus, continuing this we can an ascending chain condition of subgroups properly contained in another. Since [tex]G[/tex] is finite it means this chain must terminate and hence there is an element which generates the full group.
Q.E.D.
 

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