Proving Decreasing and Convex Energy in Heat Equation with Neumann Conditions

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The discussion revolves around proving properties of the energy associated with the heat equation under Neumann boundary conditions. The energy is defined as \( E(t) = \int_{0}^{1} u(x,t)^2 dx \), and participants are tasked with demonstrating that this energy is decreasing and convex, as well as showing that the solution \( u(x,t) \) approaches a constant as time progresses.

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  • Participants discuss using separation of variables and Fourier series to express the solution, but some question the validity of this approach for all initial data. There is a suggestion to differentiate the energy directly with respect to time and to use integration by parts to analyze the resulting expression. Questions arise about handling boundary terms and the implications of the integral of the square of the derivative.

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The conversation is active, with participants sharing insights on differentiation techniques and integration by parts. Some guidance has been provided regarding the interpretation of boundary terms and the nature of the integrals involved. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the derived expressions for the energy's behavior over time.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of the heat equation and its boundary conditions, with some expressing uncertainty about the appropriateness of certain mathematical techniques. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify these concepts without arriving at definitive conclusions.

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Suppose that u satisfies the heat equation [tex]u_t = u_x_x[/tex] on the unit interval [0,1] subject
to Neumann conditions [tex]u_x(0,t) = u_x(1,t) = 0[/tex]. Show that the energy
[tex]E(t) =\int_{0}^{1}u(x,t)^2dx[/tex] is decreasing and convex. Show also that u(x,t) approaches a constant as
[tex]t\rightarrow\infty[/tex]
.

attempt at solution:


Separation of variables (!?): X=Acoskx+Bsinkx.
Sub in Neumann conditions: X=ACosnπx
...T=exp(-n^2π^2t^2)
Combine linearly: [tex]u=E_0+ \sum_{n=1}^\infty[/tex] E_n e^(-n^2π^2t^2) Cosnπx
Therefore E(t)=[tex]\int_{0}^{1}(E_0+ \sum_{n=1}^\infty E_n exp^(-n^2\pi^2t^2) Cosn\pi x)^2dx[/tex]
Therefore E(t)=[tex]\int_{0}^{1}(E_0)^2+(\sum_{n=1}^\infty E_n exp^(-n^2\pi^2t^2) Cosn\pi x)^2dx[/tex]
Therefore [tex]E(t)=F_0+\frac{1}{2}\sum_{n=1}^\infty E_n exp^(-2n^2\pi^2t^2)[/tex]
...
Apparently this is wrong. Using separation of variables and Fourier series is not OK for all initial data. Can you come up with an argument that does not involve solving the problem explicitly? I was told as a hint, to start with the formula for energy and differentiate it directly with respect to t and then try to show that the derivative is negative (integration by parts should help here)...What!? Perhaps EXPLAIN this suggestion. Thanks
 
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It means what it says. Find dE/dt by differentiating inside the integral. Now use the heat equation to swap the time derivative of u for a double x derivative of u. Integrate by parts... Just try it.
 
Thats very helpful. Thank you. However, I am left with

[tex]\int_{0}^{1}u(x,y)\frac{\delta^2u}{\delta x^2}dx[/tex]

How on Earth do you solve this !?
 
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d(u_x)=u_xx*dx. Pick your 'parts' to be u_x(x,t) and u(x,t).
 
Hi Dick. I'm really appreciative of your time. You have been a great help so far.

Dick said:
d(u_x)=u_xx*dx. Pick your 'parts' to be u_x(x,t) and u(x,t).

I was under the impression that integration by parts was only used when a direct substituion for the parts (u, dv) was used ... taken directly from the given equation.

Is what you have just suggested now not int by substitution?
 
coverband said:
Hi Dick. I'm really appreciative of your time. You have been a great help so far.



I was under the impression that integration by parts was only used when a direct substituion for the parts (u, dv) was used ... taken directly from the given equation.

Is what you have just suggested now not int by substitution?

Well, no, it's parts. u*dv=d(u*v)-v*du with u=u(x,t) and v=u_x(x,t). You are going to get a boundary term u*u_x evaluated between 0 and 1.
 
Dick said:
Well, no, it's parts. u*dv=d(u*v)-v*du with u=u(x,t) and v=u_x(x,t). You are going to get a boundary term u*u_x evaluated between 0 and 1.

Slow and steady wins the race! Again, very informative.

I am left with [tex][u\frac{\delta u}{\delta x} ]_{0}^{1} - \int_{0}^{1} \frac{\delta u}{\delta x}du[/tex].

As you rightly stated I am left with a boundary term u*u_x evaluated between 0 and 1. Can anything be done with the [tex]\int_{0}^{1} \frac{\delta u}{\delta x}du[/tex] !?

or have i done it wqrong and last term should be [tex]\int_{0}^{1} [\frac{\delta u}{\delta x}]^2dx[/tex] ?

Either way what is the name of this section of maths we are dealing with so i can look it up
 
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They are both right. Like I said it's integration by parts. The final integral is u_x*du=u_x*u_x*dx. And there's not much to do with the integral of the square except notice that it's nonnegative.
 
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So [tex]E(t)= [u\frac{\delta u}{\delta x} ]_{0}^{1} - \int_{0}^{1} \frac{\delta u}{\delta x}du[/tex] is the final answer? Does this prove energy convex and decreasing? How show u approaches const. as [tex]t \rightarrow \infty[/tex] ?
 
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i) That's not E(t), it's dE(t)/dt. ii) Evaluate the boundary term. iii) Tell me why the integral is positive. Now tell me something about E(t).
 
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Ok, so when the boundary conditions are applied [tex]dE(t)/dt= - \int \int_{0}^{1} \frac{\delta u}{\delta x}du dt[/tex] Now what? Because rate of change of energy is minus this implies energy decreasing? What of u approaching const as [tex]t \rightarrow \infty[/tex] ?
 
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There's no dt in the integral. Go back and remember how you got here. You differentiated with respect to time first. That's why it is dE/dt. And yes, that's negative because the integral can be written as the integral of a square. What square?
 
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So [tex]E(t)= -2 \int \int_{0}^{1} [\frac{\delta u}{\delta x}]^2dx dt[/tex] Now what!?
 
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Write it as dE/dt equals the negative of the dx integral, you dropped the minus sign. Forget the dt integral. Doesn't that tell you E is decreasing? Is E bounded below?
 
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Ok so [tex]dE(t)/dt= -2 \int_{0}^{1} [\frac{\delta u}{\delta x}]^2 dx[/tex] proves energy convex and decreasing. How show u approaches const. as [tex]t \rightarrow \infty[/tex] ?

(Thanks a million by the way)
 
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Well, it does prove E(t) is decreasing. It doesn't prove it's convex. To show it's convex you need E''(t)>=0. You might guess you'd do it in a similar way that you showed E'(t)<=0. But just knowing that E(t) is decreasing and bounded below (why is it bounded below?), tells you E(t) approaches a constant as t->infinity, right? What does that tell you about E'(t) as t->infinity?
 

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