Proving Induction: n∑(1/√n) > 2(√(n+1) -1)

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The discussion revolves around proving the inequality involving a summation and square roots using mathematical induction. The original statement is to show that the sum of the reciprocals of the square roots from 1 to n is greater than twice the difference of the square root of (n+1) and 1.

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  • Participants explore the induction process, questioning how to handle the transition from n=k to n=k+1. There are discussions about the correct interpretation of the summation limits and expressions involved.

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Several participants have provided hints and guidance on how to approach the inductive step, while others are clarifying the expressions involved. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the inequalities and the necessary algebraic manipulations needed to progress.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the requirement to use induction and the specific forms of the expressions involved. There are also mentions of potential misunderstandings about the implications of certain inequalities and the need for rigorous proof across all n.

  • #31
You know that
$$\sum_{k=1}^{n+1} \frac{1}{\sqrt k} > 2(\sqrt{n+1}-1) + \frac {1}{\sqrt{n+1}}.$$ Starting from there, you have to find a chain of true implications that eventually ends with
$$\sum_{k=1}^{n+1} \frac{1}{\sqrt k} > 2(\sqrt{n+2}-1).$$ A few posts back you said that you found
$$2(\sqrt{n+1}-1) + \frac {1}{\sqrt{n+1}} = \frac{2n+3-2\sqrt{n+1}}{\sqrt{n+1}}.$$ First, do a little algebra and show that this means
$$\sum_{k=1}^{n+1} \frac{1}{\sqrt k} > 2\left[\frac{n+\frac 32}{\sqrt{n+1}} - 1\right].$$ If you can now show that
$$2\left[\frac{n+\frac 32}{\sqrt{n+1}} - 1\right] > 2(\sqrt{n+2}-1),$$ you can use the transitive property of > to get the result you want. It's clear that this inequality holds if you can show that
$$\frac{n+\frac 32}{\sqrt{n+1}} > \sqrt{n+2}.$$ To prove this last inequality holds, you have to start with a statement that's undeniably true and go from there. What you can't do is start by assuming the inequality is true because that's what you're trying to prove.

What I suggest is that you start with
$$\sqrt{n+2} = \sqrt{n+2}\frac{\sqrt{n+1}}{\sqrt{n+1}}.$$ The goal is to use the rules of algebra to continue to manipulate the righthand side that so that's it's readily apparent that it's less than ##\frac{n+\frac 32}{\sqrt{n+1}}##.

You've already done most of the work. It's just putting everything in the right order to make a valid logical argument.
 
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johann1301 said:
HallsofIvy said:
So how do you show that the inequality is true?

The argument you gave above can be made to work: start with the fact that 8 < 9 and work backwards (going through your steps in the opposite order).

Alternatively, use the fact that ##\sqrt{1+x} \leq 1 + x/2## for ##|x| < 1##, with strict inequality if ##x \neq 0##. You can see this in two ways:
Method (1) look at the graph of ##y = \sqrt{z}##; it lies below its tangent line through the point (1,1). The tangent line has slope 1/2, so we have ##\sqrt{z} \leq 1 + (1/2)(z-1)##, with equality at ##z = 1## and a strict inequality otherwise.
Method (2): ##1 +x \leq 1 + x + x^2/4 = (1 +\: x/2)^2##, so ##\sqrt{1+x} \leq 1 + (x/2).##

Anyway, we have
\sqrt{n+2} = \sqrt{n+1}\sqrt{\left(1+\frac{1}{n+1} \right)}\\<br /> \leq \sqrt{n+1} \left( 1 + \frac{1}{2} \frac{1}{n+1} \right) = \sqrt{n+1}<br /> + \frac{1}{2\sqrt{n+1}}
 
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I have to get back to this problem at a later point, have some other things i have to go through before next lectures! But thank you all so much for your help!
 

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