Proving Invertibility of Matrix Products: Induction and Artin's Algebra

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The discussion revolves around proving the invertibility of matrix products, specifically focusing on the case where A and B are n x n invertible matrices and the implications of this property when extended to a product of multiple matrices. The original poster is exploring concepts from Michael Artin's Algebra, particularly the use of induction in proofs related to matrix invertibility.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the proof structure for the statement regarding the invertibility of matrix products and expresses confusion about the induction hypothesis. Some participants provide insights into the induction process and the base case, while others question the necessity of a formal proof for what they perceive as a straightforward concept.

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Participants are actively engaging with the proof structure and the concept of induction. Some have offered clarifications on the induction hypothesis and its application, while others are seeking simpler explanations or alternative approaches to the proof. There is a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the application of induction to matrices.

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There is a noted concern about the complexity of using matrices in proofs compared to numerical induction, and some participants express a desire for more straightforward explanations or examples. Additionally, the original poster's request for deletion of their topic suggests a concern about the permanence of their inquiries in the forum.

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I have very little experience with proofs, and I am trying to learn algebra on my own. The following problem is found within the text of Michael Artin's Algebra.

The first problem encountered was the following: Let A, B be n x n matrices. If both are invertible, then so is their product AB, and (AB)^{-1} = B^{-1}A^{-1}

To show this is true for the right inverse I said,

Let X be an invertible matrix.

<br /> \begin{flalign*}<br /> XX^{-1} = I\\<br /> (AB)(AB)^{-1} = I\\<br /> A(BB^{-1})A^{-1} = I \\<br /> AIA^{-1} = I\\<br /> AA^{-1} = I\\<br /> I = I\\<br /> \end{flalign*}<br />

Also the same can be said for the left inverse, which makes sense to me.

I'm having a lot of trouble understanding the following: If A_{1}, ... , A_{m} are invertible, then so is the product A_{1} ... A_{m} and its inverse is A_{m}^{-1} ... A_{1}^{-1}

Let m = 1

A_{1}A^{-1} = I

This shows that A_{1} is invertible, and its product, which is itself, is invertible.

For m + 1

Let A_{1}, ... , A_{m}, A_{m+1} be invertible matrices and let P be the product of A_{1}, ... , A_{m}.

"By the induction hypothesis, P is invertible." - I don't quite understand why you can say that. Could someone explain why this is true?
 
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Oh wait, I think I see why P is invertible.

Similarly to this:
<br /> A_{1}A^{-1} = I <br />

Since P is just a product of matrices, it is just another matrix.

<br /> \begin{flalign*}<br /> P_{1}P^{-1} = I\\<br /> (A_{1} ... A_{m})(A_{m}^{-1} ... A_{1}^{-1}) = I\\<br /> A_{1} ... ( A_{m}A_{m}^{-1}) ... A_{1}^{-1} = I\\<br /> I = I \\<br /> \end{flalign*}<br />

Even though this may be painfully obvious to all of you, am I doing this right?

Also is there a way to delete a topic I started?
 
It is better not to delete threads after you don't want them any more. Other people can learn from them.

You have done proofs by induction before? To prove "A_n is true for all n", n a positive integer, you prove two things: "A_1 is true" and "if A_k is true then A_{k+1} is true". The "induction hypothesis" is "if A_k is true".

To prove "if A_1, A_2, ..., A_n are all invertible, then (A_1A_2...A_n) is invertible and its inverse is (An^{-1}...A_2^{-1}A_1^{-1})", the "base case" is "If A_1 is invertible, then A_1 is invertible and its inverse is A_1^{-1}" which is trivial.

The "induction hypothesis" is "if A_1, A_2, ..., A_k are invertible then (A_1A_2...A_k) is invertible and its inverse is (A_k^{-1}...A_2^{-1}A_1^{-1})" and you then use that to prove "if A_1, A_2, ..., A_k, A_{k+1} are invertible then (A_2A_2...A_kA_{k+1}) is invertible and its inverse is (A_{k+1}^{-1}A_k^{-1}...A_2^{-1}A_1^{-1})"

Since they have defined P to be (A_1A_2...A_k), it is invertible by hyopthesis- the whole point of induction is to avoid doing the kind of "..." argument you have in your second post.
 
I understand proof by induction when you have numbers. But the use of matrices really complicates it for me. Could someone please write out a way to prove:

If A_{1}, ... , A_{m} are invertible, then so is the product: A_{1} ... A_{m} and its inverse is A_{m}^{-1} ... A_{1}^{-1}

Much appreciated.
 
IKonquer said:
I understand proof by induction when you have numbers. But the use of matrices really complicates it for me. Could someone please write out a way to prove:

If A_{1}, ... , A_{m} are invertible, then so is the product: A_{1} ... A_{m} and its inverse is A_{m}^{-1} ... A_{1}^{-1}

Much appreciated.

I think induction is overkill in a simple proof like this and the '...' is perfectly understandable. Unless your course expects you to be super formal about proofs, and if you are little fuzzy about induction, I doubt it is.
 
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