Proving N C R x M C R-r = (N+M) C R

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In summary, the conversation is about proving the equation (N,r) x (M,R-r) = (N+M, R) using combinatorics. The conversation explores different approaches to the proof, including using generic variables and considering a scenario with two bins of balls. The main goal is to show that the equation holds true.
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Homework Statement



If (N,R) indicates number of combinations of R objects selected from set of N objects N >=r then prove :

R
E (N,r) x (M,R-r) = (N+M, R)
r=0

E specifies the usual capital sigma notion for a sum.

The Attempt at a Solution



Just don't know how to tackle this? Inductive proof may be possible but we have three variables N, M and R, so its non trivial?

Any clues?
 
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Hola the4thamigo_uk! :smile:

Suppose we have 2 bins with respectively N balls and M balls, and we take a total of R balls from both bins.
What are the possibilities for the number of balls to take from the first bin?
And how do they combine with the balls from the second bin?
 
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Yes I understand the situation and the combinatoric proof, but how would I formally prove it?
 
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Hmm, let's see...

Suppose we take generic variables a and b, then:
(a+b)N+M = (a+b)N (a+b)M

Working this out you get:
(... + C(N+M,R) aR bN+M-R + ... ) = (C(N,0)a0 bN + C(N,1)a1 bN-1 + ...) (C(M,0)a0 bM + C(M,1)a1 bM-1 + ...)

To get the specific term on the left side, you need to combine the terms on the right side in such a way that corresponds exactly to your equation.
So the equation must hold true.
 

Related to Proving N C R x M C R-r = (N+M) C R

What is the formula for "Proving N C R x M C R-r = (N+M) C R"?

The formula is: N C R x M C R-r = (N+M) C R, where N, M, and R are integers and R ≤ N and R ≤ M.

What does N C R represent in the formula?

N C R represents the number of combinations of choosing R objects from a set of N objects without replacement. This is also known as the "N choose R" formula.

What does M C R-r represent in the formula?

M C R-r represents the number of combinations of choosing R-r objects from a set of M objects without replacement. This is also known as the "M choose R-r" formula.

How can I prove that N C R x M C R-r = (N+M) C R?

There are a few different ways to prove this formula, but one common method is to use the definition of combinations and manipulate the expressions algebraically until they are equal. Another method is to use Pascal's identity, which states that the sum of two consecutive "choose" numbers is equal to the next "choose" number in the sequence.

What are some real-world applications of this formula?

This formula has many applications in statistics and probability, such as calculating the number of possible outcomes in a lottery or the probability of winning a raffle. It is also used in mathematics to solve problems involving combinations and permutations, and in computer science for data compression algorithms and hash functions.

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