Proving Simple Harmonic Motion: Amplitude and Frequency Analysis

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The discussion revolves around proving the existence of a number A>0 and φ such that acos(ct)+bsin(ct)=Acos(ct−φ), within the context of simple harmonic motion. The participants explore the implications of predetermined constants a, b, and c, where c>0, and how these relate to amplitude and frequency analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss expanding the equation and equating coefficients to derive relationships between A, φ, a, and b. There are attempts to clarify how to express φ in terms of a and b, and questions arise regarding the proof of the existence of φ and A under certain conditions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their approaches to expanding the equation and relating coefficients. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationships between the variables, but there remains uncertainty about how to formally prove the existence of φ and A based on the derived equations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that a and b are not zero, and there are discussions about the implications of this assumption on the values of φ and A. The constraints of the homework problem and the need for a rigorous proof are acknowledged but not resolved.

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Homework Statement


Prove that there exists a number A>0 and \phi such that acos(ct)+bsin(ct)=Acos(ct-\phi).


Homework Equations


a,b,c are predermined constants where c>0. From this equation I can justify conclusions regarding the amplitude, frequency, and so forth of a simple harmonic ocillator.


The Attempt at a Solution


Obviously if a (or b) is 0, then A is equal b (or a, respectively) and \phi is 0. Thus, I can now assume that a and b are not 0. I try defining two different functions and proving that they are equal for every t using properties of the derivatives.
 
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expand out Acos(ct-φ) and then equate coefficients. You should get two equations. Just try to relate them.

Hint: sin2x+cos2x=1
 
Got it. I expanded using the trig sums of angles formula for cosine. Thank you.
 
how do you finish this?

do you get b=-Asin(phi) and a = Acos(phi)

then phi = arctan(b/a)

and A = a/(cos(phi))

do you say that there exists phi = arctan(b/a) > 0 which implies cos(phi) > 0 for 0<phi<pi/4. provided that a > 0 A > 0. etc? I don't see how you 'prove' this.
 
Gregg said:
how do you finish this?

do you get b=-Asin(phi) and a = Acos(phi)

then phi = arctan(b/a)

and A = a/(cos(phi))

do you say that there exists phi = arctan(b/a) > 0 which implies cos(phi) > 0 for 0<phi<pi/4. provided that a > 0 A > 0. etc? I don't see how you 'prove' this.


you'd get b=Asinφ and a = Acosφ

consider what a2+b2, gives. Since tanφ=b/a, then φ exists since a,b≠0
 

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