MHB Proving the Sum of a Sequence Equals n Using Induction

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The discussion focuses on proving the sum of a sequence equals n using mathematical induction. The base case is straightforward, but the induction step requires careful consideration of the values in the sequence, specifically whether they are all greater than, less than, or equal to 1. A participant suggests using the logarithmic inequality to demonstrate that the product of the sequence values is less than or equal to 1. Another participant mentions that their professor provided a different but simpler proof by induction, which also considers the existence of values both greater than and less than 1. The conversation highlights the challenge of finding an effective proof without relying on the Arithmetic-Geometric Mean (AGM) method.
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Okay, so I need to prove this. I thought I would be using induction, right?

First we can consider the base case, which is simple.

Next we have to do the induction step.

I think we consider one case where each a=1. Then we have 1<=1.

Then consider that they are not all 1. I can't remember what trick to use. Is it that there must exist at least one a such that a<1? Because if they're all larger than 1 then the sum can't be n. And then there must also exist an a>1? Because if they're all less than 1 then the sum can't be n.
 
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Also, just to clear it up, I don't want to use AGM to prove it. The point is to prove this without AGM.
 
Hi joypav,

Using the fact that $\log x \le x - 1$ for all $x > 0$, you can prove directly that $\log(a_1\cdots a_n) \le 0$, which is equivalent to $a_1\cdots a_n \le 1$.
 
Euge said:
Hi joypav,

Using the fact that $\log x \le x - 1$ for all $x > 0$, you can prove directly that $\log(a_1\cdots a_n) \le 0$, which is equivalent to $a_1\cdots a_n \le 1$.

My professor actually provided me with a much different solution. This one is simpler though! Thanks
 
Out of curiosity, what was the solution your professor provided?
 
Euge said:
Out of curiosity, what was the solution your professor provided?

It was a proof by induction.
The typical basis step.
Then the induction step by considering that there must be at least one value greater than one and at least one value less than one.

If you're interested I can type it out.
 
There's no need. I was just curious what he did.
 

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