Proving Validity of Function Compositions: A Comprehensive Guide

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The discussion focuses on proving the validity of function compositions involving three functions, f, g, and h, with specific image and domain conditions. Participants express confusion about the relationships between the images, domains, and codomains necessary for the compositions to be equal. There are issues with LaTeX formatting that complicate the clarity of the problem statement, leading to misunderstandings among users. An example is provided to explore whether the compositions f ∘ (g ∘ h) and h ∘ (g ∘ f) are defined and equal. The conversation highlights the challenges of mathematical notation and the importance of clear communication in problem-solving.
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Homework Statement



Make [; f: A \rightarrow B ;], [; g: C \rightarrow D ;], [; h: E \rightarrow F ;] functions in which [; \text{Im} f \subseteq C;] and [; \text{Im} g \subseteq E;]. Show that [; f \circ ( g \circ h ) ;] and [; h \circ ( g \circ f ) ;] are valid if, and only if, [; f \circ ( g \circ h ) = h \circ ( g \circ f) ;].

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Though the proof seems to be very trivial, I couldn't see very deeply.

I set the propositions necessary for the functions to exist, but I couldn't find a relation in the images, domains and codomains to make them equal.

Thanks
 
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Make f: A \rightarrow B, g: C \rightarrow D, h: E \rightarrow F functions in which \text{Im} f \subseteq C and \text{Im} g \subseteq E. Show that f \circ ( g \circ h ) and h \circ ( g \circ f ) are valid if, and only if, f \circ ( g \circ h ) = h \circ ( g \circ f).

But it looks wrong at first sight.
 
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Yeah, that's exactly what I wrote
 
Hobold said:
Yeah, that's exactly what I wrote

Came out as:

Make [; f: A \rightarrow B ;], [; g: C \rightarrow D ;], [; h: E \rightarrow F ;] functions in which [; \text{Im} f \subseteq C;] and [; \text{Im} g \subseteq E;]. Show that [; f \circ ( g \circ h ) ;] and [; h \circ ( g \circ f ) ;] are valid if, and only if, [; f \circ ( g \circ h ) = h \circ ( g \circ f) ;].

on my screen. But there are some welly strange things happening with the Latex processing.
 
Suppose f:\mathbb{N}\rightarrow \mathbb{N} is f:n\mapsto n+1, g=f and h:\mathbb{N}\rightarrow \mathbb{N} is h:n\mapsto max(n-2,0).

Are both f\circ(g\circ h) and h\circ(g\circ f) defined? If so, are they equal?
 
Martin, when you edit and it doesn't work correctly (and editing LaTex often gives that problem), try clicking on the "refresh" button. That often clears up the problem. Why it doesn't "refresh" automatically, I don't know!
 
Thanks. With luck that should save me some work.

But in this instance it was Hobold's entry that was garbled and I hadn't edited it. In fact it still looks garbled on my screen (even after refresh).
 
When I said, "But it looks wrong", I was referring to the content rather than the typesetting.
 

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