Q: Generating Electricity with Charged Objects

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the generation of electricity using charged objects, specifically a negatively charged object and a positively charged object connected to a light bulb. Participants explore the implications of charge flow, energy generation, and the limitations of such a setup, including concepts related to AC and DC electricity.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that connecting a negatively charged object and a positively charged object will generate an electrical current capable of lighting a bulb, but this current will eventually stop as the charges are depleted.
  • Others argue that a continuous flow of charge is necessary to keep the light bulb lit, indicating that the charges cannot be considered unlimited.
  • A participant compares the setup to a battery, noting that while current can flow, the battery will eventually discharge, leading to a cessation of current.
  • There are inquiries about equations to calculate energy generation, with mentions of needing to know charge in Coulombs and voltage in volts to apply relevant formulas.
  • One participant provides a specific equation for energy calculation, although the context and variables required for its application remain unspecified.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that while a current can be generated between the charged objects, there is no consensus on the implications of charge depletion and the concept of unlimited charge. Multiple competing views on the nature of electrical generation and the necessary conditions for sustained current flow remain present.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of clarity on specific conditions for energy generation, the dependence on definitions of charge and voltage, and unresolved mathematical steps related to the energy calculation.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in basic electrical concepts, energy generation, and the principles of charge flow in circuits.

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Hi guys i have a question i want an answer to let say i have an object that is negatively charged and another object positively charge and i connected them with a wires to a light bulb will they generate electricity and the object never lose their charge let's they they have unlimited charges.
 
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The stored Electrical Energy will soon be dissipated in the light bulb. To keep the bulb alight, it is necessary to produce a continuous flow of charge from a Power Source.
 
Aliam1 said:
Hi guys i have a question i want an answer to let say i have an object that is negatively charged and another object positively charge and i connected them with a wires to a light bulb will they generate electricity and the object never lose their charge let's they they have unlimited charges.
Yes there will be an electrical current between the two objects, and if the conditions are right that current will be able to light the bulb.

However, the the current is the charge from one object to the other, which reduces the charge at both objects (it doesn't matter whether you think in terms of positive charge moving to the negative charged object or negative charge moving to the positive charged object - either way the charge at both objects is reduced). Thus we must run out of charge and the current stops. Ther's no such thing as unlimited charge; it has to come from somewhere.

A example of your setup would be an ordinary battery: the positive terminal is one object and the negative terminal is the other. There will be a current between them, but eventually the battery will be discharged and the current will stop.
 
Thanks guys i got what i needed. I was confused by ac, dc and different electrical generators.

I would also like to know if there are equation to calculate how much energy is generated if both object have a charge vaule of 1000 i guess feel free to correct me if iam wrong.
 
Aliam1 said:
Thanks guys i got what i needed. I was confused by ac, dc and different electrical generators.

I would also like to know if there are equation to calculate how much energy is generated if both object have a charge vaule of 1000 i guess feel free to correct me if iam wrong.
There is indeed such an equation (actually several of them, as the problem will be different depending on several things that you haven't specified) , but you'll need to know both the amount of charge, usually measured in Coulombs, and the voltage difference, usually measured in volts. Googling for "resistor power current" and "capacitor discharge" will get you started... but it might be best to see if you can find an intro physics textbook that covers this material.
 
Aliam1 said:
I would also like to know if there are equation to calculate how much energy is generated if both object have a charge vaule of 1000 i guess feel free to correct me if iam wrong.
##E=\frac{C\cdot U^2}{2}##
 
Aliam1 said:
Hi guys i have a question i want an answer to let say i have an object that is negatively charged and another object positively charge and i connected them with a wires to a light bulb will they generate electricity and the object never lose their charge let's they they have unlimited charges.

That is essentially what you do when you hook a light bulb up to a battery, except the bulb will eventually stop glowing because the battery doesn't deliver an unlimited amount of charge. It eventually dies and has to be either replaced or recharged.
 

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