Quadratic Formula (Equilibrium Points)

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The discussion focuses on deriving equilibrium points from a differential equation using the quadratic formula. The equation set to zero is μ + 2y + y² = 0, leading to the application of the quadratic formula. The solution simplifies to y = -1 ± √(1 - μ) after factoring out constants from the square root. Participants clarify that √(4 - 4μ) can be rewritten as 2√(1 - μ), which aids in the simplification process. Overall, the conversation emphasizes understanding the manipulation of square roots in solving quadratic equations.
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Homework Statement



The following is part of a solution to a problem about finding equiblirum points of a differential equation and sketching its bifurcation diagram

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9194/63226925.jpg

How did they get y= -1 \pm \sqrt{1- \mu}?

Homework Equations



The quadratic equation:

\frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}

The Attempt at a Solution



Setting the DE equalt to 0:

\frac{dy}{dt} = \mu +2y+y^2 = 0

Using the quadratic formula:

y = \frac{-2 \pm \sqrt{4-4 \mu}}{2}

= -1 \pm \frac{\sqrt{4-4 \mu}}{2}

So how did they get that answer? :confused: Any explanation is appreciated.
 
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\sqrt{4-4\mu}=\sqrt{4(1-\mu)}=2\sqrt{(1-\mu)}

ehild
 
roam said:

Homework Statement



The following is part of a solution to a problem about finding equiblirum points of a differential equation and sketching its bifurcation diagram

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9194/63226925.jpg

How did they get y= -1 \pm \sqrt{1- \mu}?

Homework Equations



The quadratic equation:

\frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}

The Attempt at a Solution



Setting the DE equalt to 0:

\frac{dy}{dt} = \mu +2y+y^2 = 0

Using the quadratic formula:

y = \frac{-2 \pm \sqrt{4-4 \mu}}{2}

= -1 \pm \frac{\sqrt{4-4 \mu}}{2}

So how did they get that answer? :confused: Any explanation is appreciated.

This type of thing happens over and over again, so you should learn it once and for all: \frac{\sqrt{X}}{a} = \sqrt{\frac{X}{a^2}} if a > 0.

RGV
 
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Ah, I didn't see that :redface:

Thank you very much guys.
 
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