Question about accelerating movement

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The discussion revolves around a uniformly accelerating movement problem involving two cars starting from rest, with car (2) beginning its motion 3 seconds after car (1). The calculated accelerations for car (1) and car (2) are confirmed as 1.5 m/s² and 2 m/s², respectively. By evaluating the distance traveled by both cars up to 18 seconds, it is determined that car (2) does not catch up to car (1), as car (1) covers 243 meters while car (2) only covers 225 meters. The participants also discuss how to find the meeting point of the two cars, suggesting the equation S_1 = S_2 for further analysis. Overall, the calculations and reasoning presented are affirmed as correct.
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A uniformly accelerating movement problem that we found in our book and we wanted to solve, but we are not sure if our solution is right:

Homework Statement



Two cars, (1) and (2), initially at rest, start to move from the same point, in the same road. Car (2), however, starts to move 3.0 seconds after car (1). The picture below (attached in .BMP format) represents, in Cartesian graph, how their scalar velocities vary in function of time during 18 seconds, counting from car (1).
a) Calculate the scalar accelerations of cars (1) and (2) after their movements started.
b) Verify if, until the instant t = 18 s, car (2) managed to reach car (1). Justify your answer.

Homework Equations



S = S_0 + v_0t + \frac{a}{2}t^2
a = \frac{\Delta v}{\Delta t}

The Attempt at a Solution



The first question asks to find the accelerations.
The accelerations, a_1 and a_2, are (calculating until instant t = 12, where both cars have velocity v = 18 m/s):
Car (1): a_1 = \frac{\Delta v}{\Delta t} = \frac{18}{12} = \frac{3}{2} m/s^2
Car (2): a_2 = \frac{\Delta v}{\Delta t} = \frac{18}{12 - 3} = \frac{18}{9} = 2 m/s^2,
noting that, since car (2) begins from t = 3 seconds, it only moved during 12 - 3 = 9 seconds.
We are sure this first part is right.
Now, the second question is the one that generates a little doubt, since car (2) starts from the same point as car (1), but only 3 seconds after.
Here is our attempt:
First, we have to discover the space equation (S_1 and S_2) for both cars.
Car (1) is easy -> S_1 = \frac{a}{2}t^2, since it starts from rest and considering it starts from the position 0 meters. thus: S_1 = \frac{\frac{3}{2}}{2}t^2 = \frac{3}{4}t^2.
Now, car (2), considering it started from time t = 0: S_2 = \frac{2}{2}t^2 = t^2. Since it started moving from the same point as car (1), its initial position is also 0.
To discover whether car (2) reached car (1) until t = 18 s, we have to know how much they moved until this instant. For car (1):
S_1 = \frac{3}{4}t^2 = \frac{3}{4}18^2 = \frac{3}{4}324 = 243 m.
For car (2), since it started at instant t = 3, we had to consider it only moved during 18 - 3 = 15 seconds. thus:
S_2 = t^2 = 15^2 = 225 m.
But the problem with the equation for car (2)'s movement is that it has to consider this car started its movement from time t = 0.
Therefore, the answer would be: no, car (2) didn't reach car (1) yet, because S_2 = 225 is smaller than S_1 = 243.
Another conclusion that we drawed is that, if we wanted to discover the position where cars (1) and (2) meet, we should do S_1 = S_2; but, since car (2) starts from a different time than car (1), we should do like this (in order to find time according to the referential presented in the graph, right?):
\frac{3}{4}t^2 = (t - 3)^2.
Does all this sound right?
Thank you in advance.
 

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Hmm... your attachment is still pending approval. Could you meanwhile describe your graph? (as a piecewise function, etc.)
 
We will try to describe:
It is a velocity x time graph (with velocity as the y-axis and time as the x-axis).
There are two functions described in the graph. They are straight lines, and encounter at a point, (t = 12; v = 18):
Car (1) is a straight line from point (t = 0; v = 0) to point (t = 12; v = 18), and further prolonged until instant t = 18 (without specifying velocity at this instant).
Car (2) is a straight line from point (t = 3; v = 0) to point (t = 12; v = 18), further prolonged until instant t = 18.
Thus, the two straight lines start with 3 seconds of difference and cross at instant t = 12 (with corresponding velocity v = 18), and continue moving away from each other until instant t = 18.
We are afraid that this description is confuse.
Thank you in advance.
 
pc2-brazil said:
Does all this sound right?
Sounds good to me.
 
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