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In the discussion, a scenario is presented where a body in deep space encounters a massive planet, raising questions about its acceleration towards the planet. It is clarified that, according to relativity, the body does not experience a force but follows a curved geodesic in spacetime, which results in an apparent increase in speed. The conversation also touches on the conservation of energy, asserting that mass cannot suddenly appear without violating relativity principles. Additionally, there is a misunderstanding about quantum mechanics allowing such occurrences, which is corrected by emphasizing that energy conservation holds true in both quantum mechanics and general relativity. The need for layman-friendly explanations and spacetime diagrams is also highlighted in the discussion.
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A body is moving in deep space substantially away from others influences of gravitational force ( just assume).

Suddenly, a big planet appears in It's vicinity. As per relativity it's not some force issuing forth from the planet that attracts the body towards itself. The body just keeps on moving as before, only the space is curved this time.So, it starts to move towards the planet. OK till now, I suppose.

My question is, 'why does the body accelerate/increase its speed.Why doesn't it keep moving at the same speed as before?

Or, do the people on the planet only SEE it to be accelerating towards the planet, as it is moving closer to the planet with time? Is the speed of the body same as before?

I hope there is nothing objectionable with this post
 
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Deepak K Kapur said:
Suddenly, a big planet appears in It's vicinity.
This part of the question violates the conservation of energy in a way that is incompatible with relativity. So the answer below will ignore that part.

Deepak K Kapur said:
why does the body accelerate/increase its speed.Why doesn't it keep moving at the same speed as before?
Remember that it is following a geodesic in spacetime, not just space. So a path that was originally parallel to the time axis can curve so that it is at an angle to the time axis. This is acceleration/increased speed.
 
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Mass cannot just appear magically like that though.
 
Dale said:
This part of the question violates the conservation of energy in a way that is incompatible with relativity. So the answer below will ignore that part.

Remember that it is following a geodesic in spacetime, not just space. So a path that was originally parallel to the time axis can curve so that it is at an angle to the time axis. This is acceleration/increased speed.
I have kinda got the idea...

Can you please elaborate more and that too in layman terms.
 
rootone said:
Mass cannot just appear magically like that though.

I think quantum mechanics allows this, even if the probability is miniscule...
 
Deepak K Kapur said:
I have kinda got the idea...

Can you please elaborate more and that too in layman terms.
Are you familiar with spacetime diagrams? If so, how would you draw an object at rest, an object moving slowly, and an object moving fast?
 
Deepak K Kapur said:
I think quantum mechanics allows this, even if the probability is miniscule...
No it doesn't. Energy is conserved in QM. In any case, the question is about GR where this sort of thing is explicitly forbidden.
 
Dale said:
Are you familiar with spacetime diagrams? If so, how would you draw an object at rest, an object moving slowly, and an object moving fast?

Laymen are most certainly well versed in spacetime diagrams...
 
So, how would you draw an object at rest, an object moving slowly, and an object moving fast?
 
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