Question about SO(N) group generators

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The discussion revolves around the properties of the generators of the SO(N) group, specifically focusing on their commutation relations and the nature of the Lie algebra associated with SO(N). The scope includes theoretical aspects related to group theory and its application in quantum field theory (QFT).

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the commutation relations satisfied by the generators of the SO(N) group, specifically questioning if the generators λ satisfy the condition λ^T = -λ.
  • Another participant confirms that the Lie algebra of SO(n) consists of skew-symmetric matrices, which aligns with the condition mentioned in the inquiry. They note that this arises from differentiating a path of orthogonal matrices at the identity.
  • A third participant introduces the concept of the dimensionality of SO(n) being related to triangle numbers in ℝn, suggesting this might provide insight into the topic. They also link to a video for further assistance.
  • A later reply reiterates that the Lie algebra of SO(n) is indeed composed of skew-symmetric matrices, expressing gratitude for the clarification and indicating that it resolves some of their issues.
  • The participant working on the SO(N) symmetry of a λφ^4 theory in QFT explains their need for understanding the commutator of the generators to derive the exact expression of the commutator of two conserved charges.

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Participants generally agree on the nature of the Lie algebra of SO(n) being composed of skew-symmetric matrices. However, the complexity of the commutation relations and the specific details regarding their application in QFT remain less clear, indicating some unresolved aspects.

Contextual Notes

The discussion touches on the mathematical intricacies of the commutation relations and the dependence on definitions related to the generators of the SO(N) group. There are unresolved questions regarding the specific forms of the commutators and their implications in the context of quantum field theory.

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Hi all. I have a question about the properties of the generators of the SO(N) group.
What kind of commutation relation they satisfy? Is it true that the generators λ are such that:

$$\lambda^T=-\lambda$$ ??

Thank you very much
 
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The commutators are complicated, in general--or too complicated for me.

Yes, the Lie algebra of SO(n) is the skew-symmetric matrices, which is the condition you wrote. That comes from differentiating a path of orthogonal matrices at the identity, or rather differentiating the equation that defines an orthogonal matrix.
 
Notice, that the n-dimensionality of SO(n) are triangle numbers in ℝn hopefully this can help you figure out a reason why, also I set a link to a video I think that might be able to help.

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Edit: Also may I ask why do you need to know this thing about the lie commutators in SO(n)?
 
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homeomorphic said:
Yes, the Lie algebra of SO(n) is the skew-symmetric matrices, which is the condition you wrote. That comes from differentiating a path of orthogonal matrices at the identity, or rather differentiating the equation that defines an orthogonal matrix.

Thank you very much! That solves some problems!

Tenshou said:
Edit: Also may I ask why do you need to know this thing about the lie commutators in SO(n)?

I am working on the SO(N) symmetry of a [itex]\lambda \phi^4[/itex] theory in QFT and I need the exact expression of the commutator of two conserved charges, so I need to know the commutator of the generators.
 

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