Question about the Stern-Gerlach Experiment

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The discussion revolves around the Stern-Gerlach experiment and its implications for quantum circuits, particularly in relation to spin 1/2-particles. Participants explore the relationship between the experiment and quantum gates, such as the Hadamard transform, and how the measurement axis affects circuit design.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the Stern-Gerlach experiment is equivalent to applying a Hadamard transform to a spin 1/2-particle.
  • Another participant argues against this equivalence, suggesting that it depends on the direction of the magnetic field in the apparatus.
  • It is proposed that if the magnetic field is along the z-direction, the measurement is straightforward, while measuring along the x-axis requires additional Hadamard gates before and after measurement.
  • Clarifications are sought regarding the construction of quantum circuits based on the measurement axis of the Stern-Gerlach apparatus.
  • Participants discuss the need for different circuit diagrams to represent measurements along different axes and the possibility of defining new symbols for these measurements.
  • There is a mention that quantum computing is limited to finite-dimensional quantum systems, which complicates the representation of continuous-space processes like the double-slit experiment in quantum circuit diagrams.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between the Stern-Gerlach experiment and quantum circuit design, particularly regarding the application of the Hadamard gate and the implications of measurement along different axes. The discussion remains unresolved on some points, particularly concerning the specifics of circuit construction.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the construction of quantum circuits depends on the measurement axis, which introduces complexity in representing different quantum processes. There is also an acknowledgment of the limitations in representing continuous-space processes within quantum computing frameworks.

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I have a general question about the Stern-Gerlach experiment. When a spin 1/2-particle passes through the magnets, is that effectively equivalent to applying a Hadamard transform to the state of the particle going through the apparatus?

Also, let's say I wanted to create a quantum circuit to reflect the Stern-Gerlach experiment. Would that basically be equivalent to:

H|q0> -> (measurement occurs) -> |q0> = |up> or |q0> = |down>
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captainhampto said:
When a spin 1/2-particle passes through the magnets, is that effectively equivalent to applying a Hadamard transform to the state of the particle going through the apparatus?
Well, no. Could you elaborate on why you would think this?

Also, let's say I wanted to create a quantum circuit to reflect the Stern-Gerlach experiment. Would that basically be equivalent to:

H|q0> -> (measurement occurs) -> |q0> = |up> or |q0> = |down>
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Sort of. It depends on the direction of the magnetic field in the Stern-Gerlach apparatus. If the magnetic field points along the z-direction, then the Stern-Gerlach apparatus is measuring the spin along the z-axis, which is represented already by the "dial" symbol, so you should lose the Hadamard gate. If the magnetic field points along the x-axis, then you should be getting out particles with spin pointing along the +x or -x directions, so your circuit is still not quite right -- you need another Hadamard gate after the measurement.
 
Thanks again for the response cortiver, very much appreciated. So just for clarification, depending on the axis the Stern-Gerlach apparatus is measuring in, results in a differently constructed circuit?

So for the z-direction it is simply the measurement operation, the +x and -x require a Hadamard gate before and after the measurement? Also are there any specific papers/books that delve more into converting existing quantum mechanically based experiments into quantum computing analogies such as this one here (i.e. double slit experiment, interferometer, etc.)

Thanks again, I greatly appreciate the assistance.
 
captainhampto said:
Thanks again for the response cortiver, very much appreciated. So just for clarification, depending on the axis the Stern-Gerlach apparatus is measuring in, results in a differently constructed circuit?
Yes, measuring along different axes represents a different process, so obviously it needs a different circuit diagram to represent it. The "dial" symbol represents measurement along the z-axis -- you can get measurement along a different axis by combining with other gates, but you could also just define a new symbol to represent measurement along that axis.

So for the z-direction it is simply the measurement operation, the +x and -x require a Hadamard gate before and after the measurement? Also are there any specific papers/books that delve more into converting existing quantum mechanically based experiments into quantum computing analogies such as this one here (i.e. double slit experiment, interferometer, etc.)

Quantum computing deals with finite-dimensional quantum systems (e.g. spins). You can't represent continuous-space processes like two-slit interference in a quantum circuit diagram.
 

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