Question involving cross product and planes

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on proving that the vector sum of the cross products of position vectors \( a \), \( b \), and \( c \) (i.e., \( a \times b + b \times c + c \times a \)) is perpendicular to the plane formed by three non-collinear points \( P \), \( Q \), and \( R \) in \( \mathbb{R}^3 \). The confusion arises from the misconception that the sum of cross products does not yield a normal vector. However, it is established that this vector is indeed normal if it is perpendicular to the vectors formed by the differences \( (a-b) \) and \( (b-c) \), which can be verified using the dot product.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of vector operations in \( \mathbb{R}^3
  • Knowledge of cross products and their geometric interpretations
  • Familiarity with the concept of normal vectors to planes
  • Ability to apply the dot product to verify perpendicularity
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the properties of cross products in vector algebra
  • Learn how to derive normal vectors from position vectors in \( \mathbb{R}^3 \)
  • Explore the geometric interpretation of the dot product in relation to angles between vectors
  • Practice problems involving multiple vectors and their relationships in three-dimensional space
USEFUL FOR

This discussion is beneficial for students studying vector calculus, geometry, and linear algebra, particularly those focusing on three-dimensional space and the properties of vectors. It is also useful for educators looking to clarify concepts related to cross products and planes.

mrcheeses
Messages
31
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



Take P;Q and R three points of R 3 not on the same line. If a = OP , b = OQ and c = OR are the position vectors corresponding to the three points, show that a x b + b x c + c x a is perpendicular to the plane containing P;Q and R

The Attempt at a Solution



I don't seem to understand how the cross product of these position vectors added up makes a vector perpendicular to the plane. To get a vector perpendicular to the plane, normally you would take these position vectors and subtract them to get a vector on the plane, do this with the other , and then take the cross product. If we just add vectors normal to each other, it just gives a scalar multiple of that vector, so in a way i think a x b is similar to a x b + b x c + c x a. If the cross product between just a and b are taken, a vector normal to the plane isn't the result.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
mrcheeses said:

Homework Statement



Take P;Q and R three points of R 3 not on the same line. If a = OP , b = OQ and c = OR are the position vectors corresponding to the three points, show that a x b + b x c + c x a is perpendicular to the plane containing P;Q and R

The Attempt at a Solution



I don't seem to understand how the cross product of these position vectors added up makes a vector perpendicular to the plane. To get a vector perpendicular to the plane, normally you would take these position vectors and subtract them to get a vector on the plane, do this with the other , and then take the cross product. If we just add vectors normal to each other, it just gives a scalar multiple of that vector, so in a way i think a x b is similar to a x b + b x c + c x a. If the cross product between just a and b are taken, a vector normal to the plane isn't the result.

No, a x b is not going to be a normal, as you said. You want to show the sum of the three terms is a normal. It will be a normal if it's perpendicular to (a-b) and (b-c), right? Use the dot product to check that.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
4K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K