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The discussion centers on finding the eigenvalues and eigenvectors of the matrix A, which yields eigenvalues of ±1 and corresponding eigenvectors that can be expressed with a real parameter t. A key question arises regarding the nature of t, specifically whether it must be real or could be complex, particularly in the context of quantum mechanics. It is clarified that while eigenvectors can indeed be complex, symmetric matrices guarantee real, orthogonal eigenvectors. In quantum mechanics, eigenvectors typically represent states in a complex Hilbert space, allowing for complex values. Understanding this distinction is crucial for interpreting eigenvectors in various mathematical and physical contexts.
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So I have to find the eigenvalues and eigenvectors of

A=\left(\begin{array}{cc}0&1\\1&0\end{array}\right)

which is not that special and hard. I solve the characteristic equation and find the eigenvalues: \lambda_{1,2}=\pm 1. So finding the eigenvectors is relatively simple, I just plug that back into characteristic eq and I get:

v_1=t\left(\begin{array}{c}1\\1\end{array}\right)

and

v_2=t\left(\begin{array}{c}1\\-1\end{array}\right).

So that's pretty simple? I can even normalize it and show that they are orthogonal. But!

There was one thing that kinda bugged me, and got my attention. Back on linear algebra class we said that t is some real parameter and we lived our lives happily ever after.

But my professor, now on QM asked this: how do we know that t is real? What if it's complex?

If it is complex then the normalization isn't that trivial.

So my question is: why is it real? Are we free to impose that on the parameter? Or is there some deeper math behind it all?
 
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dingo_d said:

Homework Statement



So I have to find the eigenvalues and eigenvectors of

A=\left(\begin{array}{cc}0&1\\1&0\end{array}\right)

which is not that special and hard. I solve the characteristic equation and find the eigenvalues: \lambda_{1,2}=\pm 1. So finding the eigenvectors is relatively simple, I just plug that back into characteristic eq and I get:

v_1=t\left(\begin{array}{c}1\\1\end{array}\right)

and

v_2=t\left(\begin{array}{c}1\\-1\end{array}\right).

So that's pretty simple? I can even normalize it and show that they are orthogonal. But!

There was one thing that kinda bugged me, and got my attention. Back on linear algebra class we said that t is some real parameter and we lived our lives happily ever after.

But my professor, now on QM asked this: how do we know that t is real? What if it's complex?

If it is complex then the normalization isn't that trivial.

So my question is: why is it real? Are we free to impose that on the parameter? Or is there some deeper math behind it all?
In general, t or your eigenvectors needn't be real. For example, if we let t=i then your eigenvectors are v1 = [i, i]T and v2 = [i, -i]T. Substituting the eigenvectors into the eigenvalue problem yields

\begin{bmatrix} 0 & 1 \\ 1 & 0\end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}i \\ i\end{bmatrix} = \begin{bmatrix}i \\ i\end{bmatrix}

and

\begin{bmatrix} 0 & 1 \\ 1 & 0\end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}i \\ -i\end{bmatrix} = -\begin{bmatrix}i \\ -i\end{bmatrix}.

Therefore, it is possible in general to have complex eigenvectors. However, if your matrix is a symmetric (as it is here) nxn square matrix, then there exists n mutually orthogonal, real eigenvectors; but that doesn't mean that there aren't any complex ones!

In general, the context dictates whether the eigenvectors should be real, rather than the matrix itself.
 
And in the context of quantum mechanics? Usually the eigenvectors represent states in which observable has a definite value (the eigenvalue).

What would imaginary eigenvector represent?
 
dingo_d said:
And in the context of quantum mechanics? Usually the eigenvectors represent states in which observable has a definite value (the eigenvalue).

What would imaginary eigenvector represent?
In quantum mechanics, the eigenvectors (or wave functions) belong to a complex Hilbert Space. In other words, quantum mechanical wave functions are, in general, complex.
 
Hootenanny said:
In quantum mechanics, the eigenvectors (or wave functions) belong to a complex Hilbert Space. In other words, quantum mechanical wave functions are, in general, complex.


Oh I see! Cool, thanks on the clearing that out ^^
 
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