Question on cylinder calculation

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The discussion centers on calculating the total number of objects (R) on the surface area of a cylinder using geometric principles. The cylinder has a length of 100,000 microns and a width (diameter) of 5,000 microns. To find the total number of R objects, the area of the curved surface is calculated using the formula πLW, where L is the length and W is the width. The area of the field of view is 250,000 square microns, and the total number of R objects is determined by dividing the cylinder's surface area by the field of view area and multiplying by 5. Additionally, a variation involving a 10-degree rotation of the cylinder is discussed for estimating R objects using a new field of view of 10 microns x 500 microns.

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Rade
I have this problem. Consider a cylinder

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|________=________|

I shine a laser beam on the cylinder to view a field that has the dimensions of (=) being 500 microns x 500 microns. The cylinder is say100,000 microns in length, 5,000 in width. I determine that 5 objects of R exist within the field of view of each (=) area for the entire cylinder. What is calculus equation that I should use to determine total number of R objects on the entire outside area of the cylinder ? Thanks for any help (ps/ not a homework question, a research question).
 
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Rade said:
I have this problem. Consider a cylinder

__________________
|________=________|

I shine a laser beam on the cylinder to view a field that has the dimensions of (=) being 500 microns x 500 microns. The cylinder is say100,000 microns in length, 5,000 in width. I determine that 5 objects of R exist within the field of view of each (=) area for the entire cylinder. What is calculus equation that I should use to determine total number of R objects on the entire outside area of the cylinder ? Thanks for any help (ps/ not a homework question, a research question).

For a cylinder of length L, width W (the diameter of the cylinder), the are of the curved portion (Excluding the two ends. It's not clear whether you are including them or not) has area [itex]\pi LW[/itex] (If you do intend to include the ends, the total area is [itex]\pi LW+ \pi\frac{W^2}{2}[/itex]). Divide that area by the area of your field of view (250000 square microns) and multiply by 5. I see no reason to use calculus.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
For a cylinder of length L, width W (the diameter of the cylinder), the are [sic--"arc"] of the curved portion (Excluding the two ends. It's not clear whether you are including them or not) has area [itex]\pi LW[/itex] (If you do intend to include the ends, the total area is [itex]\pi LW+ \pi\frac{W^2}{2}[/itex]). Divide that area by the area of your field of view (250000 square microns) and multiply by 5. I see no reason to use calculus.
Thank you very much. Yes, I do wish to include both ends of the arc in this calculation. If you have the time, I have one more question--a variation of the above. Suppose I view only the leading edge of the "arc" of the cylinder one (=) section at a time, such as this over time:

start |=--------| , |-=------| , |--=-----|, |---=----|, etc,|-------=| end

I rotate the cylinder 10 degrees and do the count again, rotate another 10 degress and count. I calculate that the statistical mean number of R objects/ (=) area is equal to 5. What equation is used to estimate the total number of R objects on the cylinder (assume the new field of view for each (=) area is now 10 microns x 500 microns) ? Thanks again for any help provided.
 

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