Questions About Magnetism: Forces & Flux

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The discussion centers on the principles of magnetism, specifically addressing the absence of net magnetic force between non-magnetic materials and the relationship between magnetic field flux and electric current. It confirms that while atomic currents exist, their influence on magnetic forces is negligible, as stated in the textbook. The conversation also explains how a current-carrying conductor interacts with magnetic fields, referencing Fleming's left-hand rule and the formula F = IBL, which describes the force experienced by the conductor in a magnetic field.

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My book says that there is not net magnetic force between two non-magnetic materials. Shouldn't there be a little magnetic force rather than 'no net force' between two non-magnetic substances. Aren't they successful to influence the atomic currents of other to a considerable degree?

How is field flux analogous to electric current?

A current carrying conductor is placed in a magnetic field perpendicular to it. Of the two, what causes the action such that it experiences a reaction form other as per Newton's third law.
 
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My book says that there is not net magnetic force between two non-magnetic materials. Shouldn't there be a little magnetic force rather than 'no net force' between two non-magnetic substances. Aren't they successful to influence the atomic currents of other to a considerable degree?

No , your textbook is correct. There is no net magnetic force between two non magnetic substances but the gravitational force between the two always exists which is directly proportional to product of masses of two and inversely proportional to square of distance between the two.

Yes , atomic currents are there and yes , they too constitute the electromagnetic force field but that attraction is negligible and not taken into account. Moreover , electron flow slowly in metal like the calm sea and the magnetic moment by them is negligible. Also the negative charge of electron keeps on equalizing by positive metal ion. Also electrons flow randomly in neutral substances in any directions. Molecules are aligned in closed chains. Suppose an atom looses electrons but it can again gain electron so THE NET CHARGE IS TOO NEGLIGIBLE TO BE TAKEN IN ACCOUNT. IT CAN BE REGARDED AS EVEN NIL.

How is field flux analogous to electric current?

A current carrying conductor is placed in a magnetic field perpendicular to it. Of the two, what causes the action such that it experiences a reaction form other as per Newton's third law.

Field flux is the magnetic lines of force flowing through the unit cross section area of wire. Yes , change in magnetic flux per unit time induces current which changes its direction as long as magnet is moved in and out of coil. Moreover flux is result of current as well.

When current carrying conductor is placed such its DC magnetic field is on plane perpendicular to magnetic field of magnets on either side of it , it experiences torque or couple by which it rotates or is acted upon by linear force also. On this principle DC motor works. There is no application of Newton's third law.

It is Fleming's left hand rule : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleming's_left-hand_rule_for_motors

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That force = current times magnetic field times length of conductor
F = IBL

It was proved experimentally I guess. I guess that the resultant component of two magnetic field gives direction of torque. I think this is what is the proof. I will have a look at it.:rolleyes:
 
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