Questions on connections and covariant differentiation

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The discussion revolves around questions related to connections and covariant differentiation on Riemannian manifolds, specifically focusing on the interpretation of certain equations involving the Christoffel symbols and their implications in Euclidean space.

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Main Points Raised

  • Post 1 raises a question about the equation $$\partial_i g_{jk}=<\partial_i \vdash \partial_j,\partial_k>+<\partial_j,\partial_i\vdash \partial_k>$$ and expresses confusion about how a vector field can equal a real function.
  • Post 1 also questions the second Christoffel identity and its application in Euclidean space, specifically why $$\Gamma^k_{ij}=0$$ does not seem to follow from the identity.
  • Post 2 responds by stating that $g_{jk}$ is a function of U, and its derivative with respect to $x_i$ remains a function, not a vector field. It also clarifies that the Christoffel symbols are coefficients of the vector field $\partial_i \vdash \partial_j$ and not vectors themselves.
  • Post 2 asserts that the vanishing of the Christoffel symbols in Euclidean space follows from the second identity, noting that the metric coefficients are constant functions leading to zero derivatives.
  • Post 3 acknowledges a misunderstanding regarding the interpretation of $\partial_i g_{jk}$ as merely the derivative in the direction of $x_i$, confirming it is still a function.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the equations and the nature of the Christoffel symbols. While some clarifications are made, the discussion does not reach a consensus on the initial questions posed.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of vector fields and functions in the context of Riemannian geometry, as well as the application of the Christoffel identities in different spaces.

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The question is in the pdf file,thank you!:smile:




M is a Riemannian manifold, $\vdash$ is a global connection on M compatible with the Riemannian metric.In terms of local coordinates $u^1,...,u^n$ defined on a coordinate neighborhood $U \subset M$, the connection $\vdash$ is determined by $\Gamma^k_{ij}$ on U,as follows. Let $\partial_k$ denote the vector field $\frac{\partial}{\partial u^k}$ on U.Then any vector field X on U can be expressed uniquely as $$X=\sum_{k=1} x^k \partial_k$$ where the $x^k$ are real valued functions on U.In particular the vector field $\partial_i \vdash \partial_j$ can be expressed as $$\partial_i \vdash \partial_j=\sum_k \Gamma^k_{ij}\partial_k$$

My 1st question is that there is an equation $$\partial_i g_{jk}=<\partial_i \vdash \partial_j,\partial_k>+<\partial_j,\partial_i\vdash \partial_k>$$,but how could it be? The left of the equation is a vector field but the right is a function.And there are the first Christoffel identity $$<\partial_i\vdash\partial_j,\partial_k>=\frac{1}{2}(\partial_ig_{jk}+\partial_jg_{ik}-\partial_kg_{ij})$$
and the second Christoffel identity $$\Gamma^l_{ij}=\sum_k\frac{1}{2}(\partial_ig_{jk}+\partial_jg_{ik}-\partial_kg_{ij})$$ for which I have the same question.How could a vector field equals a real function?

My 2nd question is why in Euclidean n-space,$R^n$,have $$\Gamma^k_{ij}=0?$$ I use the second Christoffel identity but obviously it don't equals zero.The metric is the usual Riemannian metric $dx_1^2+dx_2^2+...+dx_n^2$
 

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g_jk is a function of U, so how could its derivative wrt to x_i be a vector field? It is a function still.

Equally misterious to me is why you think the Christ. symbols are vectors. Like you wrote before, they are merely the coefficients(=smooth functions on U) of the vector field \partial_i \vdash \partial_j wrt to the basis (\partial_k)_k.

Your second question kinda proves that there's some fundamental misconception you're having about the meaning of some of the symbols. Because indeed you get the vanishing of the Christ. symbols from the 2nd identity. In the euclidean riemannian metric, the metric coefficients g_ij (=smooth R-valued functions on R^n!) are just the constant function g_ii=1 and g_ij=0 (if i is not j). So their derivatives are indeed all 0.
 
Oh,I get it! \partial_i g_{jk} is only the derivative of g_{jk} in the direction of x_i,it is still a function. It was really a misconception I have.

Thank you quasar987!:)
 
My pleasure. :)
 

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