Questions using photodiode circuit to measure laser intensity

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The discussion revolves around the use of a photodiode circuit to measure the intensity of laser light, specifically in the context of a mechanical engineering application involving a 2-phase solid-liquid concentrated suspension. Participants explore various components, configurations, and methodologies relevant to this measurement task.

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  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • A participant inquires about additional components needed alongside the photodiode for measuring laser intensity.
  • Questions are raised regarding the wavelength (532 nm) and power levels (10-100 mW) of the laser being used.
  • There is a need to follow changes in the intensity level, with uncertainty expressed about how to address the bandwidth of these changes.
  • One participant describes the experimental setup involving shining a laser through a suspension and measuring intensity to assess the matching of refractive indices.
  • Another participant suggests that the changes in the setup may be slow, potentially on the order of a second, which could simplify the measurement process.
  • A basic I-to-V converter opamp circuit is mentioned, with a preference for connecting the cathode of the diode to the V- rail to improve bandwidth and linearity.
  • A question is posed about whether the suspended solid particles are small enough to cause diffraction when the refractive index is incorrect, suggesting an alternative detection method involving off-axis diffracted light.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints and questions, but there is no clear consensus on the optimal approach or configuration for the photodiode circuit. The discussion remains open-ended with multiple considerations and suggestions presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully addressed the bandwidth question, and there are unresolved assumptions regarding the behavior of the laser light in the suspension. The discussion includes technical details that may depend on specific configurations and definitions.

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Hello all, I'm a new Mechanical engineering graduate student who needs help using a photodiode. I'd like to rig up some kind of circuit that will let me measure the intensity of laser light. This is kind of a new area for me haven't really done anything like this before so forgive me if I come off as uninformed. Anyway I guess my basic questions are:

1) In addition to the photodiode what other components would I need?
2) Can you recommend any resources that would aid me?
3) Is there perhaps a simpler alternative than a photodiode circuit?

Thanks all for the help in advance!
 
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amb1989 said:
Hello all, I'm a new Mechanical engineering graduate student who needs help using a photodiode. I'd like to rig up some kind of circuit that will let me measure the intensity of laser light. This is kind of a new area for me haven't really done anything like this before so forgive me if I come off as uninformed. Anyway I guess my basic questions are:

1) In addition to the photodiode what other components would I need?
2) Can you recommend any resources that would aid me?
3) Is there perhaps a simpler alternative than a photodiode circuit?

Thanks all for the help in advance!

What wavelength and power level(s) are involved? Is this a DC measurement, or do you need to follow changes in the intensity level? If there are changes, what is the bandwidth of those changes? Are you splitting off some of the main beam to monitor intensity during an experiment, or are you meaning to make this portable, measure the main beam, and then remove the measurement device to use the laser?

You will probably use an opamp based photodiode circuit. The photodiode is reverse biased between ground and the V- power supply, and the opamp is powered by split V+ and V- supplies. The opamp is configured as a (photo)current to voltage converter...
 
berkeman said:
What wavelength and power level(s) are involved? Is this a DC measurement, or do you need to follow changes in the intensity level? If there are changes, what is the bandwidth of those changes? Are you splitting off some of the main beam to monitor intensity during an experiment, or are you meaning to make this portable, measure the main beam, and then remove the measurement device to use the laser?

You will probably use an opamp based photodiode circuit. The photodiode is reverse biased between ground and the V- power supply, and the opamp is powered by split V+ and V- supplies. The opamp is configured as a (photo)current to voltage converter...

Berkeman, thanks for the response! I'll do my best to answer your questions.

Laser wavelength is 532 nm, power levels 10-100mW.
I'm going to have to follow changes in the intensity level.
I'm not sure how to address the bandwidth question. Could you rephrase it perhaps?
I won't be splitting the beam and it doesn't need to be portable.

Also I'll describe a little better of what I'm going to do, probably should have done that in the OP. What I'm doing is shining a laser through a 2-phase solid-liquid concentrated suspension. I'm trying to match the refractive index of the two phases of the suspension which renders it transparent. In order to see how well I'm doing I'll measure the intensity of the laser beam passing through it. If the laser intensity is really low then well I know that the 2-phases don't match well. As I change my solution and get the indices to match more closely the light intensity should approach the baseline (laser shining through solution with no solid phase).
 
amb1989 said:
Berkeman, thanks for the response! I'll do my best to answer your questions.

Laser wavelength is 532 nm, power levels 10-100mW.
I'm going to have to follow changes in the intensity level.
I'm not sure how to address the bandwidth question. Could you rephrase it perhaps?
I won't be splitting the beam and it doesn't need to be portable.

Also I'll describe a little better of what I'm going to do, probably should have done that in the OP. What I'm doing is shining a laser through a 2-phase solid-liquid concentrated suspension. I'm trying to match the refractive index of the two phases of the suspension which renders it transparent. In order to see how well I'm doing I'll measure the intensity of the laser beam passing through it. If the laser intensity is really low then well I know that the 2-phases don't match well. As I change my solution and get the indices to match more closely the light intensity should approach the baseline (laser shining through solution with no solid phase).

By bandwidth, I just meant how quickly the measured value can change. It sounds like the changes in your setup will be slow, on the order of a second or so? That's easier to handle than if it could change at 10kHz or something.

Here is the basic I-to-V converter opamp circuit, although I usually prefer to connect the cathode of the diode to the V- rail instead of to ground. The large negative bias improves bandwidth, and may help the linearity of the photodiode (check its datasheet):

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electronic/photdet.html
 

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Are the suspended solid particles so small that when the liquid does not have the correct refractive index, the light is diffracted? If so, you might try detecting a minimum in the diffracted light off axis.
 

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