Quick proof regarding inner products

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The discussion revolves around a proof in the context of inner product spaces, specifically addressing the condition that if the inner product of two vectors is equal for all vectors in the space, then the vectors must be equal.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore different proof strategies, with one participant questioning the generality of a specific substitution made in the proof. Another participant offers an alternative proof approach, leading to a discussion about the implications of their findings.

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The discussion includes multiple attempts at proving the statement, with participants providing feedback on each other's reasoning. There is acknowledgment of a potential typo in the original problem statement, but no consensus is reached regarding the correctness of the proofs presented.

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Participants note that the original problem asks to prove a relationship between y and x, while some proofs conclude with a relationship between y and z, leading to confusion about the intended statement.

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Homework Statement



Let V be an inner product space. If <x,y> = <x,z> for all x in V, then prove that y = x.


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The Attempt at a Solution



Since V is a vector space, it follows that (y - z) is an element of V. Since <x,y> = <x,z> for ALL x, we put x = (y-z). Then we have <y - z, y> - <y - z, z> = 0. Since inner products are conjugate linear in the second component, we can write:

<y - z, y> - <y - z, z> = <y -z, y - z> = 0. I know that in general <w,w> = 0 if and only if w = 0. Thus we must have y - z = 0, implying that y = z.

Is this correct?
 
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I think that you lose generality if you put x=(y-z).
Probably the proof applies then to that particular case.
Anyway, there is my proof:

1. y = z + w
2. (x, z + w) = (x, z)
3. (x, z) + (x, w) = (x, z)
4. (x, w) = 0

now, since x can be any vector, the difference between y and z,
namely w, must be a null vector and so y and z are equal.

P.S. In the question you are asked to prove x=y
but then you prove z=y so I guess there is a typo.

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JG89 said:

Homework Statement



Let V be an inner product space. If <x,y> = <x,z> for all x in V, then prove that y = x.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



Since V is a vector space, it follows that (y - z) is an element of V. Since <x,y> = <x,z> for ALL x, we put x = (y-z). Then we have <y - z, y> - <y - z, z> = 0. Since inner products are conjugate linear in the second component, we can write:

<y - z, y> - <y - z, z> = <y -z, y - z> = 0. I know that in general <w,w> = 0 if and only if w = 0. Thus we must have y - z = 0, implying that y = z.

Is this correct?

Your proof is just fine.
 
Thanks Dick.
 

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