Radon 222 What is really going on?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of alpha particles emitted during the decay of Radon-222 (Rn-222), specifically whether these particles are new entities or simply rearrangements of existing particles, such as helium nuclei. The scope includes theoretical and conceptual aspects of nuclear decay processes.

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  • Some participants propose that alpha particles emitted during Rn-222 decay are essentially helium nuclei with electrons removed, rather than entirely new particles.
  • Others clarify that the alpha particles originate from the decay of the Rn-222 nucleus, which transforms into Polonium-218 (218Po) by losing two protons and two neutrons.
  • One participant emphasizes that the protons and neutrons of the alpha particle come from the radon nucleus, suggesting that no new particles are created in this process.
  • There is a distinction made between alpha decay and beta decay, with some participants noting that beta decay involves the creation of new particles.

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Participants express differing views on whether alpha particles are new particles or rearrangements of existing ones, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference historical terminology in nuclear physics, which may influence their understanding of particle identity in decay processes.

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Are the Alpha particles in the Rn 222 decay process actually new particles or something like Helium atoms with the electrons knocked off.
 
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radonbc said:
Are the Alpha particles in the Rn 222 decay process actually new particles or something like Helium atoms with the electrons knocked off.

It's not just 222Rn that decays via alpha emission! Every isotope marked in yellow in this nuclear chart (which is like an expanded periodic table, number of protons on the y axis, neutrons on the x) http://www.nndc.bnl.gov/chart/reColor.jsp?newColor=dm decays via alpha emission.

Now, we call the particles emitted by a nucleus (222Rn-> 218Po + ##\alpha##) alpha particles, but you are correct, they have the same thing as a helium nucleus. It's the same thing with "beta" decay - beta particles are electrons. Similarly "Beta plus" decay is positron emission. It's just a historical thing.
 
Great thanks, I get that other elements emit Alpha decay but are they creating new particles or changing existing particles. Where does the Alpha particle come from.
 
radonbc said:
Great thanks, I get that other elements emit Alpha decay but are they creating new particles or changing existing particles. Where does the Alpha particle come from.

The decay of the 222Rn nucleus. The decay goes like: 22286Rn-> 21884Po + α . The radon will turn into 218Po, which is two neutrons + two protons less than 222Rn
 
The protons and neutrons of the alpha particle come from the radon nucleus. No new particles, just the same in a different arrangement.

Beta decay is different, there new particles are created.
 
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