Ramp angle and landing velocity

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving projectile motion, specifically related to a motorcycle jump over a canyon. The scenario includes a vertical drop of 15 meters and a horizontal distance that was initially miscalculated, leading to questions about the correct angle for the landing ramp and the landing velocity after a flight time of 3 seconds.

Discussion Character

  • Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss calculations related to launch speed and angle, with some attempting to derive the landing velocity using various formulas. There are questions about the components of velocity, particularly the horizontal and vertical components, and how to calculate the landing angle.

Discussion Status

Several participants have shared their calculations and results, with some expressing confusion over specific values and methods. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the components of motion, but no consensus has been reached on the final values or methods.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available for solving the problem. There are indications of uncertainty regarding the correct application of formulas and the interpretation of results.

clockworks204
Messages
25
Reaction score
0
1. A Hollywood daredevil plans to jump the canyon shown in the figure on a motorcycle. There is a 15. m drop and the horizontal distance originally planned was 60. m but it turns out the canyon is really 66.3 m across. If he desires a 3.0-second flight time, what is the correct angle for his landing ramp (deg, positive angle below horizontal) AND landing velocity?



2. magnitude= sqrt(Vf^2 + Vi^2), etc



3. I've calculated the launch speed to be 24.1 m/s and the launch angle to be 23.7 deg. I've tried using the formula 2. to solve for the landing velocity by figuring Vf 15sin(23.7)-(9.81)(3)= -23.4. plugging into the formula, sqrt(-23^2 + 24.1^2)= 33.6 and this is incorrect. I've exhausted myself trying to figure these last 2 parts, and I'm now stumped! Thanks in advance. I also added a visual that may help.
 

Attachments

  • jonesf3_36.gif
    jonesf3_36.gif
    55 KB · Views: 622
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
clockworks204 said:
3. I've calculated the launch speed to be 24.1 m/s and the launch angle to be 23.7 deg.

this is correct.

clockworks204 said:
I've tried using the formula 2. to solve for the landing velocity by figuring Vf 15sin(23.7)-(9.81)(3)= -23.4. plugging into the formula, sqrt(-23^2 + 24.1^2)= 33.6 and this is incorrect. I've exhausted myself trying to figure these last 2 parts, and I'm now stumped! Thanks in advance. I also added a visual that may help.

Recheck this as I do not -23.4. Also remember this will give you the vertical component, which must be added (vector wise) to the horizontal component of velocity which is not 24.1 m/s.
 
Last edited:
I just rechecked the math and still came out with -23.4. Would the horizontal component be 22.1 from dividing 66.3/3 ? Also, how can the landing angle be calculated? Sorry...confused
 
clockworks204 said:
I just rechecked the math and still came out with -23.4.

24.1sin(23.7) - 9.81(3)

clockworks204 said:
Would the horizontal component be 22.1 from dividing 66.3/3 ? Also, how can the landing angle be calculated? Sorry...confused

yes the horizontal component would be 22.1 m/s.
 
Right, wrong number. I figured out the ramp angle by dividing -19.7 by 22.1 and took the reverse tan to get 41.7 degrees. I the got the velocity by using sqrt(19.7^2 + 22.1^2) to get 29.6 m/s.

Thanks for your help rock.freak667, I do appreciate it!
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
1K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
7K
Replies
15
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
6K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
3K
Replies
4
Views
16K
Replies
1
Views
4K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K