Random Thoughts Part 5: Time to Split Again

[collinsmark]

Here they say "Ostalgie", ost = east.

Kind of weird, in all languages I know it has no apparent connection with any orientation.

I seem to vaguely recollect references in many poems, song lyrics and prose where the West -- the direction of the setting Sun -- to be used as a euphemism for the future or perhaps a foreshadowing of something ending, maybe somebody dying.

By the same token, it would stand to reason that East, the direction of the Sun's rising, would symbolize the past, or maybe past beginnings.

So the idea that the word nostalgia is somehow etymologically connected to East doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

[Edit: etymological dictionaries are telling me that it's etymological origin is from "severe homesickness" though.]

 

[fresh_42]

[Edit: etymological dictionaries are telling me that it's etymological origin is from "severe homesickness" though.]

Yes, and even better:

It was a military medical diagnosis principally, and was considered a serious medical problem by the North in the American Civil War:In the first two years of the war, there were reported 2588 cases of nostalgia, and 13 deaths from this cause. These numbers scarcely express the real extent to which nostalgia influenced the sickness and mortality of the army. To the depressing influence of home-sickness must be attributed the fatal result in many cases which might otherwise have terminated favorably. ["Sanitary Memoirs of the War," U.S. Sanitary Commission, N.Y.: 1867]

From Greek algos "pain, grief, distress" (see -algia) + nostos "homecoming," from neomai "to reach some place, escape, return, get home," Source: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=nostalgia

 

[Psinter]

Haha that's why old people stand in a queue at 7am in front of the bakery here :-) though they know there will be bread and rolls all day,

What are rolls?

However, if there is sales on cheap sugar people buy even 20-30 kg of it.

*gasp* That's a lot of sugar!

And I'm talking of a city of more than 250,000 citizens.

Wow, that's a lot of people. I've never been in a city with that big amount of population.

 

[fresh_42]

What are rolls?

In this case: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brötchen#/media/File:13-08-31-Kochtreffen-Wien-RalfR-N3S_7849-024.jpg

Edit: ... before someone answers with what Americans may understand by it ...

 

[Psinter]

In this case: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brötchen#/media/File:13-08-31-Kochtreffen-Wien-RalfR-N3S_7849-024.jpg

Edit: ... before someone answers with what Americans may understand by it ...

Oh.

I don't think I had ever seen that before. Looks kind of cool.

 

[ProfuselyQuarky]

Edit: ... before someone answers with what Americans may understand by it ...

Hmph

Fresh, how are those any different from the rolls over here?

 

[Sophia]

In this case: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brötchen#/media/File:13-08-31-Kochtreffen-Wien-RalfR-N3S_7849-024.jpg

Edit: ... before someone answers with what Americans may understand by it ...

e-e

We do have those and I personally prefer them over rolls, but I am talking about this https://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rožok_(druh_pečiva)
it's something almost as important as bread. It's popularity here may be compared to popularity of baguette in France.

*gasp* That's a lot of sugar!

yep. As Fresh said, many people make their own jams and various kinds of conserved fruits, vegetables and mushrooms. I don't know the English word for this . It's mainly put on cakes, pudding or yoghurt and sometimes eaten instead of salad with some kinds of meat. And a good housewife bakes something every Sunday! :) I'm not a good housewife

 

[JorisL]

It's mainly put on cakes, pudding or yoghurt and sometimes eaten instead of salad with some kinds of meat.

Thicken the juice with cornflower and they are awesome with meatballs!

Those are regular cherries it seems, sour cherries are better yet, adding some freshness I'd say.
With the leftovers you could make a kriek lambic which is great in the summer.

 

[Sophia]

Thicken the juice with cornflower and they are awesome with meatballs!

Those are regular cherries it seems, sour cherries are better yet, adding some freshness I'd say.
With the leftovers you could make a kriek lambic which is great in the summer.

Mmmm I must try kriek lambic! It looks tasty and refreshing :-)

I know that they are cherries but I meant that I don't know what's the general name for any type of fruit conserved in sweet water.
And I had time to find out now and learned that is almost the same as in my language - compote :-)

 

[Psinter]

e-e

We do have those and I personally prefer them over rolls, but I am talking about this https://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rožok_(druh_pečiva)
it's something almost as important as bread. It's popularity here may be compared to popularity of baguette in France.

I see.

yep. As Fresh said, many people make their own jams and various kinds of conserved fruits, vegetables and mushrooms. I don't know the English word for this . It's mainly put on cakes, pudding or yoghurt and sometimes eaten instead of salad with some kinds of meat. And a good housewife bakes something every Sunday! :) I'm not a good housewife

And what does a good caveman do every Sunday? I wonder .

That looks quite good. Do they make their own chocolate? I wish I knew how to make my own chocolate.

 

[Astronuc]

500 year-old shipwreck loaded with gold found in Namibian desert
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016...oaded-with-gold-found-in-namibian-desert.html

Must be nice to find something like that.

 

[WWGD]

I see.

And what does a good caveman do every Sunday? I wonder .
.

Advertise for Geico?

 

[Psinter]

Advertise for Geico?

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It's like super mega raining at my place right now. It is true that it rains almost every day at this place, but this isn't your everyday raining. This is... advanced raining. (ಠ-ಠ)

“Advanced[/PLAIN] Darkness” refers to a memorable quote from the popular animated cartoon Spongebob Squarepants. The original usage of the quote revolved around the immense darkness that Spongebob has found himself in. Online, the word “darkness” is often replaced with another word as a reaction to an overwhelming amount of whatever it may be the word “darkness” has been replaced with, as well as being the subject of parody by webcomic artists.

 

[Sophia]

_______________________________________________________________________
It's like super mega raining at my place right now. It is true that it rains almost every day at this place, but this isn't your everyday raining. This is... advanced raining. (ಠ-ಠ)

Imagine having homemade chocolate http://wellnessmama.com/6764/homemade-chocolate/ while there's an advanced raining outside. That would be so romantic!

 

[Psinter]

Hihi. Well, romantic or not, I know I'll enjoy me chocolate.

 

[Sophia]

I was watching a series about linguistics and in one video where the guy talks about ambiguities there's this sentence:
"The complex houses married and single soldiers and their families."
It's after min 4 here
What does it mean?

 

[Jonathan Scott]

"The complex houses married and single soldiers and their families."
What does it mean?

"Houses" is a verb here. It means "The complex provides housing for soldiers who are married and their families, and for single soldiers".
Edit: I've interpreted a bit there; it actually say soldiers who are married or single and their families, so if a single soldier has a family that would be included.

 

[Sophia]

"Houses" is a verb here. It means "The complex provides housing for soldiers who are married and their families, and for single soldiers".
Edit: I've interpreted a bit there; it actually say soldiers who are married or single and their families, so if a single soldier has a family that would be included.

I see! Thank you :)

 

[DiracPool]

Oh gosh, I got the 4 year family prize tonight. I feel so special, like I'm part of something. Thanks to PF. I'm a lone wolf, a lonely soldier for the better part of two decades. It's great to be part of a great community. Recently, I was accepted to a graduate program in computer science, which I know almost nothing about, so I'm a bit spooked. But they wanted me in the program under a DARPA and NSF grant because of my background in in evolutionary neuroanatomy and systems neuroscience. I'm attending in the fall, so I'm trying to at least learn Python so I don't look like a fool.

 

[WWGD]

Oh gosh, I got the 4 year family prize tonight. I feel so special, like I'm part of something. Thanks to PF. I'm a lone wolf, a lonely soldier for the better part of two decades. It's great to be part of a great community. Recently, I was accepted to a graduate program in computer science, which I know almost nothing about, so I'm a bit spooked. But they wanted me in the program under a DARPA and NSF grant because of my background in in evolutionary neuroanatomy and systems neuroscience. I'm attending in the fall, so I'm trying to at least learn Python so I don't look like a fool.

Good luck with it!

 

[WWGD]

I was watching a series about linguistics and in one video where the guy talks about ambiguities there's this sentence:
"The complex houses married and single soldiers and their families."
It's after min 4 here
What does it mean?

I don't know if the show Married with Children is the best way of learning (isn't that Bud Bundy?)

 

[Sophia]

I don't know if the show Married with Children is the best way of learning (isn't that Bud Bundy?)

Lol! He really looks a bit like Bundy when you look from a new perspective [emoji2]

 

[Borg]

Two days of fighting with a set of Java Spring configuration files and I finally got two projects to play nice with each other. Just as I was about to commit the files, my IDE crashes and deleted all of the new and updated files in one of the projects. I've never seen it do anything like that on a crash before. Of course it had to be just then. I had backups of some files but not everything.

 

[zoobyshoe]

The 99 cent store had a brand of yogurt called "Liberté". The container boasted it was "Yogurt Perfection!" I thought, "No. Perfect yogurt wouldn't end up at the 99 cent store". But I bought some, because it was 2 for 99 cents.

To my amazement, it WAS yogurt perfection! I'd never has such creamy, rich tasting yogurt. I bought more.

But something was bothering me. A thing scratching at the back of my mind that I wanted to ignore. Finally, I checked the calories. Each little container had 120 MORE CALORIES than the average yogurt! No wonder it tasted so much better.

 

[Ibix]

I was watching a series about linguistics and in one video where the guy talks about ambiguities there's this sentence:
"The complex houses married and single soldiers and their families."

That's not actually ambiguous, though. Sure it takes two goes to parse, because at first glance it looks like "married" is the verb, but the "and" makes that untenable. "Houses" is the only other candidate. Although if you've not come across it as a verb before I can see it would be difficult to guess.

Years ago my English teacher gave us a truly ambiguous headline (mot sure if it's genuine or not) from the Vietnam war: "Vietcong push bottles up US Marines". If you read "push" as the verb it looks like some kind of torture is being described in rather flippant terms. However, it was actually meant to mean that an offensive (a push) by Vietcong forces had surrounded (bottled up) a lot of marines.

language is an interesting topic.

 

[Sophia]

The 99 cent store had a brand of yogurt called "Liberté". The container boasted it was "Yogurt Perfection!" I thought, "No. Perfect yogurt wouldn't end up at the 99 cent store". But I bought some, because it was 2 for 99 cents.

To my amazement, it WAS yogurt perfection! I'd never has such creamy, rich tasting yogurt. I bought more.

But something was bothering me. A thing scratching at the back of my mind that I wanted to ignore. Finally, I checked the calories. Each little container had 120 MORE CALORIES than the average yogurt! No wonder it tasted so much better.

Was it perhaps cream yoghurt (something between yoghurt and sour cream) with min. 10% fat? Those are my favourite! :)
So much better than those yucky fat-free with artificial sweeteners. Taste like a chemical experiment.
And when you eat this creamy yogurt you are full and not hungry again in an hour :)

 

[Sophia]

Years ago my English teacher gave us a truly ambiguous headline (mot sure if it's genuine or not) from the Vietnam war: "Vietcong push bottles up US Marines". If you read "push" as the verb it looks like some kind of torture is being described in rather flippant terms. However, it was actually meant to mean that an offensive (a push) by Vietcong forces had surrounded (bottled up) a lot of marines.
language is an interesting topic.

You see, this is interesting. I didn't understand that "houses" is a verb in the previous example even though I have seen it before. On the other hand, I think I've never seen "bottles up" before, but I instantly knew it has to be a verb. I didn't quite understand the meaning of the headline, but I definitely didn't see the torture before you mentioned it :)
I guess it has 2 reasons:
had to memorize a list of phrasal verbs with "up" so I was prepared for the possibility of a verb
in my language, there would probably be prepositition "into" in case of torture

 

[zoobyshoe]

Yikes! We just had an earthquake! Startled me. Almost pitched me forward headfirst onto my computer.

 

[Pepper Mint]

Oh I like the vibration.

 

[Garlic]

Yikes! We just had an earthquake! Startled me. Almost pitched me forward headfirst onto my computer.

In which region do you live?