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The discussion revolves around finding the range of the function y = sqrt{2x - 4}, exploring the concept of inverse functions, and the implications of domain restrictions for non-one-to-one functions. Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the range and transformations of functions.

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  • Some participants express confusion about the concept of range and seek clarification on how to determine it for the function y = sqrt{2x - 4}.
  • One participant explains that the function can be transformed from the parent function y = sqrt{x}, noting the horizontal shift and vertical stretch.
  • Another participant proposes finding the inverse of the function and suggests that the domain of the inverse corresponds to the range of the original function.
  • There is a discussion about the necessity of restricting the domain for functions that are not one-to-one to obtain a valid inverse.
  • Participants question the existence of a comprehensive list of functions that require domain restrictions due to non-one-to-one behavior.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to determine the range, and there are differing opinions on the implications of inverse functions and domain restrictions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the clarity of these concepts.

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Some participants mention the need for understanding transformations of functions and the implications of one-to-one properties, but these concepts are not fully resolved within the discussion.

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Readers interested in function transformations, inverse functions, and the concept of range in mathematics may find this discussion relevant.

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Find the range of y = sqrt{2x - 4}.

I need the steps. According to the textbook, graphing the function leads to finding the range. This may be true for others but not for me. I am not clear on the range idea.
 
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RTCNTC said:
Find the range of y = sqrt{2x - 4}.

I need the steps. According to the textbook, graphing the function leads to finding the range. This may be true for others but not for me. I am not clear on the range idea.

parent function is $y = \sqrt{x}$ ... you should be able to sketch this function by hand

$y = \sqrt{2x-4} = \sqrt{2(x-2)} = \sqrt{2} \cdot \sqrt{x-2}$

the parent function is horizontally shifted right 2 units and vertically stretched by a factor of $\sqrt{2}$

The domain requires $x-2 \ge 0$.

The range will be $y \ge 0$.

recommend you learn the graphs of parent functions ...

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... and how these functions are transformed.

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I will dig deeper into this topic when I get to rational functions and graphs.
 
Can I find the inverse of the given function, find the domain of the inverse which is the range of the original function?

Let me see.

y = sqrt{2x - 4}

x = sqrt{2y - 4}

x^2 = [sqrt{2y - 4}]^2

x^2 = 2y - 4

x^2 + 4 = 2y

(x^2 + 4)/2 = y

1. Is the inverse of the original function y = (x^2 + 4)/2?

2. What is the domain of the inverse function, which is the range of the original function?
 
RTCNTC said:
Can I find the inverse of the given function, find the domain of the inverse which is the range of the original function?

1. Is the inverse of the original function y = (x^2 + 4)/2?

2. What is the domain of the inverse function, which is the range of the original function?

1. it is for $x \ge 0$

2. domain stated in part (1)
 
Since the domain of the inverse is x > or = 0, then the range of the original function is the same answer.
 
RTCNTC said:
Since the domain of the inverse is x > or = 0, then the range of the original function is the same answer.

This is what I was hinting at earlier regarding functions that aren't one-to one. We have to restrict the domain for such functions to get a valid inverse.
 
MarkFL said:
This is what I was hinting at earlier regarding functions that aren't one-to one. We have to restrict the domain for such functions to get a valid inverse.

Can you provide a list of functions where restricting the domain is needed?
 
RTCNTC said:
Can you provide a list of functions where restricting the domain is needed?

Any function that is not one-to-one ... a "list" of functions with that property would be rather extensive and not all inclusive.
 
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Thank you everyone. Good information here.
 

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