Rate of change at every point in a linear function?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of differentiation and its interpretation as the rate of change in functions, particularly focusing on linear functions and the distinction between average and instantaneous rates of change.

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  • One participant questions whether differentiation is simply finding the rate of change in a function, providing examples involving the function y=6x and the expression 2/y = 2/x.
  • Another participant clarifies that differentiation is with respect to a function, explaining the notation dy/dx and its meaning in terms of derivatives.
  • A third participant expresses confusion over the technical explanation of derivatives and seeks clarification on whether their earlier statements align with the definition of a derivative.
  • A different participant explains that the derivative represents an instantaneous rate of change, contrasting it with average rates of change over intervals, using the function x^3 as an example.
  • This participant also critiques an earlier post for misusing notation and clarifies that y=6x is an equation, not a function, and emphasizes the correct notation for derivatives.
  • It is noted that a linear function has a constant rate of change, which is the same for both average and instantaneous rates of change.

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Participants express differing views on the correct interpretation and notation of differentiation, with some clarifying and correcting earlier statements. There is no consensus on the initial claims made regarding differentiation and its application.

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Some statements rely on specific definitions and notations that may not be universally understood, leading to confusion among participants. The discussion also highlights the importance of distinguishing between average and instantaneous rates of change, particularly in the context of linear functions.

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Is differentiation just finding the rate of change in a function?

\frac{dx}{dy} (y=6x) =6?


rate of change in \frac{2}{y}=\frac{2}{x}the same as :\frac{dx/dy}{dy/dx}*y=\frac{5y}{2} if and only if y=2/5 ? which equals 1 lol

I think I am right :x but non- of the Wikipedia articles help because of there complexity.
 
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Differentiation is with respect to some function, dy/dx is just a notation used to denote the derivative, in the case of dy/dx it denotes the derivative of the function y=f(x) (y as a function of x). dx/dy should denote the derivative of the function x=f(y), x as a function of y, in the first case x = y/6 => dx/dy = 1/6.

If 2/y = 2/x , you can solve for the variable of interest, i.e. y=x, but this definition only holds for x not equal to 0 in which case 2/y = 2/x does not tell us how y depends on x because 2/x is undefined.
 


considering I have no clue what you just said:

"The derivative of a function represents an infinitesimal change in the function with respect to one of its variables. "


Does this mean what I said before?
 


The derivative of a function is its instantaneous rate of change rather than its average rate of change. For x from 0 to 4, x^3 changes from 0 to 64 so has an average rate of change of 64/4= 8. For x from 1 to 3, x^3 changes from 1 to 27 and so has an average rate of change of (27- 1)/(3- 1)= 26/2= 13. From 1.5 to 2.5, x^3 changes from 3.375 to 15.625 and so has an average rate of change of (15.625- 3.375)/(2.5-1.5)= 12.25/1= 12.25.

According to calculus, the derivative of x^3 is 3x^2 and, at x= 2, that is 3(4)= 12. That is rate of change at x= 2.

By the way, what you had initially,
\frac{dx}{dy}(y= 6)= 6.
makes no sense. I think you mean to ask about the derivative of the function 6x but that is not what you wrote. First, "y= 6x" is an equation, not a function. Second, the derivative of a function, say, f(x), is written as "df(x)/dx", NOT "dy/dx(f(x)". Oh, and you had "y" and "x" reversed. You wanted "d(6x)/dx" or "dy/dx" with y= 6x.

And, yes, a linear function has the property that its rate of change is the same at every point so "average rate of change" and "instanteous rate of change", that is the "rate of change at a particular x" is that same constant- the slope of the line graph.
 

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