Rate of change of momentum. Newton 2nd law

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The discussion revolves around the application of Newton's second law to a problem involving the rate of change of momentum of hailstones impacting a roof. The scenario includes hailstones with a specified mass and velocity, falling over a defined area and time period.

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  • Participants explore the calculation of change in momentum and its relation to force. Questions arise regarding the directionality of momentum and how to relate calculated force to the area of the roof.

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Participants have engaged in calculations regarding momentum and force, with some guidance provided on interpreting directionality and scaling the force to the roof's area. There is an ongoing exploration of how to correctly apply these concepts to arrive at a final answer.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the application of momentum concepts and the relationship between force and area, as well as the implications of direction in momentum calculations.

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rate of change of momentum. Newton 2nd law (solved)

hailstones with an average mass of 4grams fall vertically and strike a flat roof at 12ms-1 .
In a period of 5 minutes, 6 000 hailstones fall on each square meter of roof and rebound vertically at 3ms-1 .
Calculate the force on the roof if it has an area of 30m2 .


the ans is 36 N

please help
 
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Do you know that Force = change in momentum per second?
Can you use these figures to calculate the change in momentum in 1 second over tha area of 30m^2?
 
this was what i did so far

mass for 1 second:
600 / (5x60)
= 20 stones s-1

initial momentum
mv
(20)(.004)(12)
=.96

final momentum
20(.004)(3)
=.24

rate of change of momentum
(.96) - (.24)
=.72
=F

stuck
 
Remember: momentum is a vector quantity. It has direction! If you take positive as representing upward direction, what would be the sign of the initial momentum?
 
so will it be
change of momentum
-.96 - (+.24)
= - 1.2 N
?
now what?
 
Check the location of that decimal point in your answer. I guess you decided to take downward as the positive direction. That's ok.

So, you get a force. But is this the force for 30 m^2?
 
i don't understand what to do with the force and the area 30m^2
sorry
can u explain some more
 
You are almost there. What you have calculated is the force on 1m^2
The area of the roof is 30m^2...
 
ohh...
thankkk uu
1.2x30
36 yayy
 

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