Rate of change problem (differentiation)

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The discussion revolves around solving a rate of change problem using differentiation in calculus. Participants clarify the relationship between volume, area, and height, emphasizing the importance of correctly expressing the volume flow rate and the area as functions of height. There is a focus on deriving the area function A(h) and its implications for calculating dA/dt, with corrections made regarding the expressions used. The conversation also highlights the need for clear communication, suggesting that images should be displayed directly in posts for better understanding. Lastly, a suggestion is made to start a new thread for unrelated calculus questions to maintain topic clarity.
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Homework Statement


Refer to the photo, please verify my answer

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For c, can I do it by assuming Ah=V.
A(dh/dt) + h(dA/dt) = dV/dt then find dA/dt?
 

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Don't you have an expression for A(h)?
 
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Simon Bridge said:
Don't you have an expression for A(h)?
A(h) =2 (pi) root[1+(h+1)^2] ... then ?
 
Do you have an expression for V(h) then?

(BTW: very few people will trouble to read images.)
 
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Simon Bridge said:
Do you have V(h) then?
I don't know what is V(h), I try to assume it as V(h)= A(h)[h] = 2 (pi) root[1+(h+1)^2] h for small interval of h, but I don't know if it is correct.
 
Didn't you just do a "volume of a solid of revolution" calculation?
Didn't you use the method of disks?

Lessee ... the disk between y and y+dy will have area A(y) and width dy, so it's volume is dV = A(y).dy
You need the volume between the bottom and y=h ... in the problem "h" is not a "small interval", it is a value of y.

For the rest ... you are given the volume flow rate of water dV/dt, and you need dh/dt and dA/dt.
If you know how the height changes with time already, and you know how the area depends on the height ...
 
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A(h) =2 (pi) root[1+(h+1)^2], so for c part, can I just differentiate both side, since I know dh/dt = 4/5 in b part.
dA(h)/ dt = 2(pi)(1/2)(1+9)^(-1/2)(2)(2+1) dh/dt
so dA(h)/dt = 24pi/5root(10)
 
Clara Chung said:
A(h) =2 (pi) root[1+(h+1)^2] ... then ?
That looks like the circumference of the circular surface, not the area.
 
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SammyS said:
That looks like the circumference of the circular surface, not the area.
A(h) = pi(1+(h+1)^2)
=pi (2+2h+h^2)
dA(h) / dt = pi(2h+2)dh/dt
=24/5
thanks
 
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Clara Chung said:
A(h) = pi(1+(h+1)^2)
=pi (2+2h+h^2)
dA(h) / dt = pi(2h+2)dh/dt
=24/5
thanks
That looks better.See what Simon said:
Simon Bridge said:
(BTW: very few people will trouble to read images.)
Notice: It's pretty easy to display your image directly in a post:

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Thank you for the advice from you both. Can you also teach me how to show that "1-t^2/2 <=cost <=1 for 0<=t<=1 "
 
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Clara Chung said:
Thank you for the advice from you both. Can you also teach me how to show that "1-t^2/2 <=cost <=1 for 0<=t<=1 "
You should start a new thread for this.
 
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@Clara Chung, problems involving differentiation should be posted in the calculus subsection, not the precalculus section.
 

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