Rational functions and link with direct substitution property

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The discussion revolves around the definition and properties of rational functions in calculus. The original poster expresses confusion regarding what constitutes a rational function, particularly in relation to examples involving polynomial ratios and the presence of roots and absolute values.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the definition of rational functions, questioning whether specific examples qualify as rational functions based on their structure. The original poster seeks clarification on the implications of cancelling terms and the role of absolute values in defining rational expressions.

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Some participants have provided definitions and distinctions between rational expressions and functions, noting that certain examples do not meet the criteria for rational functions. There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and properties involved, particularly concerning the inclusion of absolute values.

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Participants are navigating the definitions provided in their coursework, which may vary, and are considering the implications of specific mathematical expressions on the classification of rational functions.

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Hello,

I know the direct substitution property in calculus. But, the definition of a rational function still confuses me.

For example, are these rational functions:

y=(x^2+2x+1)/(x+1)

y=((x^2+2)^(1/2))/(x+1)

The denominator of the first one could cancel. So, is there still a ratio? Is it a rational function?

The second one has a root in the numerator. The exponents of are not integers. Is it still a rational function?

Please help me. I do not understand the definition.
 
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Rational expression: ratio of two polynomials; since 1 is a polynomial of order zero, y=x+1 is also a rational expression, as is y=1/x ... as long as you exclude zeros in the denominator.

A rational function is just a function which can be written as a rational expression. Your second example is not a rational expression, so y is not a rational function.
 
Thank you for the fast reply.
But, what do you mean by rational expression? I do not quite get it. What about if there was an absolute value in the function?

EDIT: I understand why the second one is not a rational expression! Thank you. I still have a doubt about absolute values.
 
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Rational expression: from ratio of expressions - in this case the individual expressions are always polynomials, so a rational expression is simply the ratio of two polynomials.

Your text may extend this to include absolute value of a ratio of polynomials, but that is not what is usually meant. But you always need to look at (and understand, and remember) the definition which is provided.
 

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