Rattling shaft in electromagnet

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around addressing the rattling or vibrating shaft in an electromagnet used in a drag knife sign making cutter. Participants explore potential solutions to mitigate the noise while considering the implications on the performance of the solenoid.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using grease to reduce the rattle, while another proposes applying a sideways force with a padded spring.
  • A different participant recommends wrapping the armature in parchment paper to fill the gap between it and the coil.
  • Concerns are raised about whether grease or parchment paper might affect the solenoid's performance.
  • Another participant notes that any modifications could potentially impact performance and expresses a preference against grease due to its tendency to collect dirt.
  • There is a question about whether the rattle is a buzz at line frequency, suggesting that a small air gap could cause high current and buzzing in an AC solenoid, while indicating to disregard this if it is a DC solenoid.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the best approach to mitigate the rattle, with no consensus reached on the effectiveness or implications of the proposed solutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that modifications may affect the solenoid's performance, but specific limitations or dependencies on definitions are not fully explored.

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Hi to all, I'm new to the forum and forgive me if I'm not in the right place.
I have a drag knife sign making cutter which uses an electromagnet to drop and raise the knife. The shaft that runs through the coil rattles/vibrates and although the machine cuts ok it drives me mad. Obviously the shaft needs to be free within the coil but is there a way of stopping the rattle - grease maybe?
Thanks in advance.
Al
 
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mrgingernutz said:
Hi to all, I'm new to the forum and forgive me if I'm not in the right place.
I have a drag knife sign making cutter which uses an electromagnet to drop and raise the knife. The shaft that runs through the coil rattles/vibrates and although the machine cuts ok it drives me mad. Obviously the shaft needs to be free within the coil but is there a way of stopping the rattle - grease maybe?
Thanks in advance.
Al

Try grease or a sideways force via a padded spring
 
If you have access to the Armature ( the part in the solenoid that moves) - Try wrapping it in parchment paper - to fill in the gap between it and the coil.
 
Thanks for the replies, i can get to the armature but do you think grease or parchment paper affect the performance of the solenoid? Al
 
It is likely anything you do can affect the performance - I am not a big fan of grease as it collects dirt. The parchment paper can just be removed if there is a problem.
 
Is this 'rattle' a buzz at line frequency?
if so, look for something that prevents the last few thousandths of an inch armature travel. A small air gap will cause high current and buzzing in an AC solenoid.

Disregard it it's a DC solenoid,.
 

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