RC Circ, Capacitor charging Q....very lost

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around an RC circuit involving a capacitor charging scenario. Participants are exploring the relationships between resistors and the capacitor, as well as the implications of various assumptions made during analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to analyze the circuit by treating it as a series/parallel resistor problem to determine current and voltage drops. They express uncertainty about their assumptions, particularly regarding the capacitor's role in the circuit. Other participants suggest removing the capacitor to find steady-state voltage and note that no current flows through the 10 ohm resistor under certain conditions.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering different perspectives on how to approach the analysis. Some guidance has been provided regarding the steady-state behavior of capacitors in DC circuits, and the concept of a voltage divider has been introduced. However, there is no explicit consensus on the best method to proceed.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions confusion regarding the application of logarithmic functions and the behavior of voltage across components in the circuit. There is an indication of potential misinterpretation of circuit elements and their interactions.

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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



Series: R_{eq} = R_1 + ... + R_n

Parallel: R_{eq} = \left(\frac{1}{R_1} + ... + \frac{1}{R_n} \right)^{-1}

Charging Capacitor: I = I_0 e^{-t/RC}

Charging Capacitor: \Delta V_C = \varepsilon (1- e^{-t/RC})

Charge: Q = C \Delta V_C

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm really not sure how to approach this. I know that the approach I've taken neither agrees with the answer in the back and doesn't make much logical sense in terms of everything else I know.

I made an assumption (a bad one I'm guessing) to treat, at least at first, the whole circuit like a parallel/series resistors problem to find the overall current through the circuit and then the voltage drops across the various components, in an attempt to find the voltage drop across the capacitor. The only problem with doing it that way is that the R_{eq} across the circuit could be calculated to be 68 ohm (assuming the cap. is a 0 ohm component...I know, probably a very wrong assumption), which puts 1.5 Amp through the circuit overall, giving a 90 Volt drop across the first resistor, leaving 10 Volts to do work on the remaining components in parallel. But then if you continue from there, turns out the 40 Ohm resistor gets 0.25 amps, the resistor/capacitor combo should be getting 1.25 Amps, which puts a 12.5 Volt drop across the 10 Ohm resistor, which is too high.

What do I need to do to solve this problem? Do I need to use those logarithmic functions? How? Are there cut off points for how much voltage will get through that 10 Ohm resistor and onto the capacitor?
 
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For a DC circuit, when you want to find the steady state voltage across capacitors, remove the capacitors from the circuit and find the potential across the open terminals where they were connected.

In this case, remove the 2.0 μF capacitor and find the potential between the open end of the 10 Ω resistor and the bottom node.
 
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An equivalent way of looking at it is to realize that no current flows through the 10 ohm resistor (as long as the switch has been closed, or open for that matter, for a long time).
 
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Note that this part of the circuit ...

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is called a "voltage divider". It essentially "divides" the voltage supplied by the battery, so that only a part of it is available to something connected across points A and B. By varying the sizes of the two resistors the voltage between points A and B can be varied to anything between zero and 100 V.
 

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