RC-RL Circuit: Solving for Capacitance Value

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The discussion revolves around solving for the capacitance value in an RC-RL circuit, focusing on the time constant and the behavior of the circuit's current over time. Participants explore the implications of the circuit's differential equation and the role of the voltage source.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about which time constant to use for solving the capacitance value, noting that both terms in the current expression are exponential functions.
  • Another participant questions the function ##u(t)## in the voltage source expression, identifying it as a unit step function.
  • Some participants suggest that the second exponential in the current expression may contain information about the capacitance, proposing that ##\frac{1}{(R_1+R_2)C}=0.6##.
  • A participant mentions that by solving the differential equation for the circuit, they derived the current expression and compared it to another provided equation to reach their conclusion.
  • One participant discusses the implications of initial charge on the capacitor, stating that the current at t=0 suggests there must be some initial charge to achieve a specific voltage in the circuit.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct approach to determine the capacitance value, with multiple viewpoints and uncertainties expressed regarding the time constants and the role of initial charge in the circuit.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the initial conditions of the circuit and the specific definitions of terms used in the equations. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of the exponential terms in the current expression.

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In got stuck. I'm not sure as to what Time constant should I use to solve for the capacitance value. In the original expression for the current, both terms are exponential function. I do not know whether to use the time constant associated with the first term or the second term.
 

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The voltage of the source is given by ##V_s(t)=36e^{-t}u(t)## ?? What function is ##u(t)##?
 
Delta2 said:
The voltage of the source is given by ##V_s(t)=36e^{-t}u(t)## ?? What function is ##u(t)##?
That's a unit step function.
 
Well ok, I am not 100% sure but I believe the second exponential contains info about the capacitance. More specifically I think that ##\frac{1}{(R_1+R_2)C}=0.6##
 
Delta2 said:
Well ok, I am not 100% sure but I believe the second exponential contains info about the capacitance. More specifically I think that ##\frac{1}{(R_1+R_2)C}=0.6##
Thank you. That's what I thought too. But It would be nice if someone would explain as to why that is the case.
 
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paulmdrdo said:
Thank you. That's what I thought too. But It would be nice if someone would explain as to why that is the case.
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By setting up and solving the differential equation for this circuit and using that ##V_s(t)=36e^{-t}## I found that the current is $$I(t)=ae^{-t}+be^{-\frac{t}{(R_1+R_2)C}}(1)$$ for some constants a and b and by comparing this with the equation you give for current, I decided my conclusion.
 
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If there was zero initial charge on the capacitor, then the current magnitude at t=0 would be 36 ÷ 14 amps. But we are told the current is a spike or pulse of magnitude 9 A peak at t=0. So we conclude there must be some initial charge on the capacitor in order to give a total loop voltage at t=0 of 9 ×14 volts.

If you set up and solve the 1st order D.E. this should be confirmed.
 
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