Really stuck computing orthogonal complement?

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The discussion revolves around computing the orthogonal complement in the context of polynomial spaces, specifically involving Legendre polynomials and their orthogonality properties.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between Legendre polynomials and the standard basis for polynomials of degree at most 3. Questions arise regarding the orthogonality of these polynomials and which specific polynomials form the orthogonal complement.

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The conversation includes attempts to clarify the properties of Legendre polynomials and their orthogonality with respect to lower-order polynomials. Some participants express confusion about the definitions and implications of orthogonality in this context, while others provide hints and corrections to refine the understanding of the problem.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the specific polynomials that are orthogonal to the standard basis for polynomials of degree 3, and the implications of using Legendre polynomials in this context. Participants are navigating the definitions and relationships between these polynomial sets.

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Really stuck... computing orthogonal complement?

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I'm really sorry I can't provide much here because I really don't know how to proceed. Could anyone offer a hint to get me started?
 
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You have a Legendre polynomial hint. Which polynomials of degree 5 are orthogonal to all polynomials of degree 3?
 


The Legendre polynomials are...
 


Legendre polynomials

The polynomials given
P0(x) = 1
P1(x) = x
P2(x) = ( 3 x^2 - 1 ) / 2
P3(x) = ( 5 x^3 - 3 x ) / 2
P4(x) = ( 35 x^4 - 30 x^2 + 3 ) / 8
P5(x) = ( 63 x^5 - 70 x^3 +15) / 8

for which
<Pi,Pj>=0 whenever i!=j
 


Sorry I'm not really understanding what you're saying. Aren't each of the legendre polynomial Pi's orthogonal to each of the basis vectors for P3 {1,x,x^2,x^3}? Isn't that what we're looking for?
 


Yes that is what we are looking for.
P4(x) = ( 35 x^4 - 30 x^2 + 3 ) / 8
and
P5(x) = ( 63 x^5 - 70 x^3 +15) / 8
are orthogonal to all lower polynomials {1,x,x^2,x^3} and are thus a basis for the orthogonal complement.
 


Hmmm actually I take that back... the LP polynomials are orth. w.r.t. other LP polynomials, but not w.r.t. the standard basis for polynomials of degree at most 3. :s
 
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Legendre polynomials are orthogonal to all polynomials of lower order.
Suppose
p3(R)=span{1,x,x^2,x^3}=span{P0,P1,P2,P3}
<P4,p3(R)>=0
<P5,p3(R)>=0
 


Right, gotcha. Thanks!
 

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