Receiving 3 Sinusoids Wirelessly: Is It Possible?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of receiving three different pure sinusoids wirelessly using a single receiver. Participants explore the technical aspects of signal transmission, reception, and analysis, particularly focusing on the use of FFT for frequency component identification. The context includes considerations of wireless communication technology, signal processing, and practical implementation challenges.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that it is possible for a single receiver to receive all three signals simultaneously, contingent on the use of appropriate filtering and sampling techniques.
  • Others argue that the effectiveness of receiving multiple signals depends on the specifics of the setup, including the bandwidth of the signals and the capabilities of the ADC.
  • A participant mentions the concept of frequency division multiplexing as a method that allows multiple signals to be transmitted simultaneously, highlighting the role of advanced signal processing techniques like FFT.
  • Concerns are raised about the practicality of using a single ADC for multiple signals, with suggestions that more details about the signal characteristics are needed to make a definitive statement.
  • There is a discussion about the necessity of down-conversion and whether sub-sampling could be a viable approach if the signals are adequately filtered.

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Participants generally agree that receiving multiple signals simultaneously is theoretically possible, but there is no consensus on the practicality and reliability of this approach in various scenarios. Multiple competing views remain regarding the specifics of implementation and the conditions required for success.

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Limitations include the need for specific details about the frequency spread of the signals, the performance characteristics of the ADC, and the potential for interference from other devices. The discussion does not resolve these uncertainties.

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Hi,
if we transmit 3 different pure sinusoids with different frequencies using 3 transmitters at the same time in the air (wireless), is this possible for a single receiver to receive all the 3 signals at the same time, so we many know frequency components of the signals using FFT?
If yes how?
If no why?
 
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signals1 said:
Hi,
if we transmit 3 different pure sinusoids with different frequencies using 3 transmitters at the same time in the air (wireless), is this possible for a single receiver to receive all the 3 signals at the same time, so we many know frequency components of the signals using FFT?
If yes how?
If no why?
If you bear in mind that a 'receiver' is no more than a filter (usually with amplification), followed by a detector / demodulator of some sort, then why not? In the case of your proposed system, the ADC and processing constitutes a demodulator. The actual answer to your question really depends upon the details of your setup but if your bandpass (low-pass) filter admits the three sinusoids then you sample fast enough (Nyquist limit plus some in- hand) the signal that your ADC looks at can be analysed in blocks using FFT and will produce three peaks in the frequency domain, corresponding to the three carrier frequencies.
 
Thanks sophiecentaur for your reply, actually I am using ISM band (2.4GHz ), frequencies from 2.4 to 2.6 GHz,my procedure is as follow (please correct me if I m wrong)
1. I will have to use an analogue bandpass filter to collect only this band of frequencies.
2. Will use ADC or simply a sampler at nyquist rate.
3. Will pass it through FFT
so In simulink a single FFT block and single ADC works for all the 3 or more signals to be analysed.
Is this possible practically to use a single ADC for all signals or I have to use 3 ADCs for 3 signals?
 
You will, presumably be doing down-conversion and analysing at a more reasonable IF frequency. What is the frequency spread of the three signals? A single ADC will need to be able to deal with this bandwidth. Your sampling rate doesn't actually need to be at the IF rate - if your signal is suitably filtered, the sub-sampling shouldn't be a problem.
I should have thought that there is no advantage in using three separate ADCs - just extra aggro.
You'd need to be more specific about the details and then we'd need someone with more knowledge than me about specific device performance - not trivial, I'm afraid.
 


I can say that it is indeed possible for a single receiver to receive all three signals at the same time. This is because wireless communication technology, such as radio waves, can transmit multiple signals simultaneously through a process called frequency division multiplexing. This involves dividing the available frequency spectrum into smaller bands, each of which can carry a different signal.

In order for the receiver to accurately distinguish and separate the three signals, it would require advanced signal processing techniques such as the Fast Fourier Transform (FFT). This mathematical algorithm can analyze the received signals and identify their respective frequency components.

However, the success of receiving all three signals wirelessly also depends on various factors such as the strength and quality of the transmitted signals, the distance between the transmitter and receiver, and potential interference from other wireless devices. Therefore, while it is possible in theory, the practicality and reliability of receiving three sinusoids wirelessly may vary in different scenarios.
 

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