Reflected rings from the chair leg

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The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of reflected rings observed on the floor from the metallic leg of a chair, specifically exploring the causes of these rings in the context of light reflection and interference. Participants consider various theories and explanations related to optics and surface properties.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the observation of rings formed by sunlight reflecting off a smooth, cylindrical chair leg and questions the cause of these rings.
  • Another participant suggests that small ripples in the surface of the tubes may be magnifying the effect.
  • A different participant proposes that the rings are interference rings, specifically referencing Newton's Rings and linking to external resources for further reading.
  • Further elaboration on Newton's Rings is provided, noting that viewing with white light can produce a concentric pattern of rainbow colors due to interference at varying air layer thicknesses.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the presence of color separation in the observed rings, mentioning that the surface is smooth and does not exhibit the same characteristics as soap bubbles described in Newton's lines.
  • Another participant introduces the idea that a wax coating on the metal leg could contribute to the observed rings through interference between reflections.
  • A final observation notes that the rings appear to be centered on a bend in the leg of the chair.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the cause of the rings, with some supporting the interference theory while others question its applicability based on the observed conditions. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing explanations presented.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the surface properties of the chair leg and the conditions under which the rings are observed, including the potential effects of external coatings and the nature of the light source.

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This is a pic of sun rays
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shining on the metallic leg of the chair. The reflection comes on the floor of my room as rings. The source is just a square window. No other light sources in the room aside from reflection from the walls. The leg of the chair is cylinder in shape with smooth surface.
I am wondering what causes those rings?
 

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I suspect magnification of small ripples in the surface of the tubes.
 
Yes, cool picture. :smile:
anorlunda said:
When viewed with white light, it forms a concentric ring pattern of rainbow colors, because the different wavelengths of light interfere at different thicknesses of the air layer between the surfaces.
@Adel Makram -- It's hard to see in your picture, but if you look closely, do you see the color separation that the Wikipedia article mentions?
 
berkeman said:
Yes, cool picture. :smile:@Adel Makram -- It's hard to see in your picture, but if you look closely, do you see the color separation that the Wikipedia article mentions?
The color of the carpet is blue but I could not see any colors at all. Also, to be honest, this is not the separation distance seen in the soap bubbles described in Newton lines assuming the interference pattern. Also, the surface of the chair tubes is entirely smooth with no ripples.
 
There could be a coating of wax on the metal leg. This would cause rings due to interference between the two reflections.
 
'Pears to be "centered" on the "bend" in the leg.
 

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