Refraction at normal incidence

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of light when it encounters a flat surface with a variable refractive index, particularly at normal incidence. Participants explore the implications of this variability on the direction and phase of the light beam, considering concepts such as gradient-index (GRIN) lenses and the effects of phase changes in different media.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether light passing through a medium with a variable refractive index will bend away from the normal, suggesting a Gaussian distribution of refractive indices.
  • Another participant references GRIN lenses as relevant to the discussion.
  • There is confusion about how phase changes in a uniform medium at normal incidence affect the propagation direction of light.
  • A participant clarifies that a spatially-dependent phase change can convert a plane wave into a converging wave.
  • Participants discuss the phase difference between beams traveling through different media, with one noting this principle relates to a Mach-Zehnder interferometer.
  • One participant asserts that a gradient in refractive index leads to both a change in wave vector and a change in phase, questioning if this understanding is correct.
  • Another participant agrees that a spatially varying phase change is equivalent to a change in propagation direction, providing mathematical context.
  • There is a discussion about the Kerr effect, where the refractive index varies with intensity, leading to complex light propagation behaviors.
  • One participant expresses a conceptual image of how phase shifts across the beam might cause it to bend toward areas of varying refractive index, while another corrects this by stating the beam bends toward the slower area of the medium.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and agreement on the implications of refractive index gradients, with some points of contention regarding the direction of bending and the nature of phase changes. The discussion remains unresolved on certain aspects, particularly the interpretation of phase shifts and their effects on light propagation.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of phase changes in relation to light propagation direction, with some assumptions about uniformity and spatial variation in refractive indices remaining unexamined. The mathematical representations used are not fully resolved, leaving some ambiguity in the discussion.

Gobil
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Just got to thinking, if we have a beam of light normal to a flat surface, and the surface is that of an object which has a variable refractive index across the transverse beam direction, will some of the light be bent away from the normal on the other side of the object?

i.e. if we have a ´flat´lens, with a distribution (lets say Gaussian) of refractive indices in the material transverse to the beam direction, will it act as a normal lens and focus or defocus the beam?

I understand the refractive index causes a phase-shift in the EM waves, but does this also change direction as in the example I describe above?

Many Thanks!
 
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Absolutely- google "GRIN" lenses.
 
Andy Resnick said:
Absolutely- google "GRIN" lenses.

Counterintuitive for me
 
ok, thanks.

But when we talk about the real part of the refractive index changing the phase of the EM wave, do we mean the phase is just changed in the plane of (original) propagation? i.e. it doesn´t really change the phase, but just the propagation direction, and hence if you observe all the phases relative to the plane of incidence they have changed?

..but wait, if the light propagates through a uniform block of glass at normal incidence, there will be a phase change.. confused.
 
I'm not sure what you are asking- taking the initial phase of the wavefront as 'zero', making a uniform change to the phase does nothing, but making a spatially-dependent phase change does do a lot- you can convert a plane wave to a converging wave, for example.

Or am I not understanding you?
 
well, what I mean is if you propagate 2 beams parallel to each other, one through vacuum, and the other through some uniform medium with a finite refractive index and finite length, will there be a difference in phase between the two waves when they are measured after the block?
 
yes- that's the principle of a Mach-Zender interferometer.
 
ok, so when we have a uniform block of material and a beam passing through it at normal incidence we have refraction in the form of a phase change of that EM wave. when this medium has a gradient of refractive index transverse to the beam we get a change in wave vector, i.e. the direction of the beam, and also a change in phase, is this correct?
 
Yes, but they are equivalent- a spatially varying change of phase is equivalent to a change in propagation direction; consider the form exp (ikz), and now let k = k + d(x,y), where d is the amount of phase change. If d(x,y) = d_0, you get an overall constant phase shift (interferometer). If d(x,y) = (x/r)^2 + (y/r)^2, you get a converging spherical wave (if I wrote d correctly...). Thus, a uniform block of glass of varying thickness (say, a lens) is equivalent to a flat slab of glass with a gradient refractive index.
 
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great thanks,

so this is the key point, a uniform change in phase (in a uniform medium) will cause phase shifts in the wave, but no directional change. But if the RI varies across the transverse of the beam, the change in phase is different for the different parts of the beam. I have an image in my head of an EM wave having different phase shifts at one 'side' of the amplitude wave the the other, and when this happens, it is essentially bent to the 'faster' area of the medium.

does this sounds right?
 
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Gobil said:
I have an image in my head of an EM wave having different phase shifts at one 'side' of the amplitude wave the the other, and when this happens, it is essentially bent to the 'faster' area of the medium.

does this sounds right?
Except that the beam is bent toward the slower (higher refractive index) area of the medium.
 

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