Refractive Index: Variations & Formula Proof

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The discussion revolves around the refractive index of materials, specifically addressing whether it varies with different types of waves, such as visible light and X-rays, and exploring the proof of a complex formula for refractive index.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the refractive index of a material varies with the wavelength of the radiation incident on it.
  • One participant mentions that the refractive index for visible light in glass is typically 1.5, questioning if this value holds for X-rays as well.
  • Another participant recalls a formula for the refractive index, n = 1 - δ - iβ, suggesting it may have been referenced in Feynman's lectures, but doubts that a proof was provided there.
  • A participant introduces a classical model for the dielectric function of a homogeneous material, suggesting that bound charges respond linearly to incoming electromagnetic waves, which could relate to the refractive index.
  • One participant explains that the refractive index can be complex, indicating that it is defined as the square root of permittivity, which can also be a complex quantity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the refractive index varies with different types of waves, but the discussion remains unresolved regarding the proof of the complex formula and its implications.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the behavior of bound charges and the applicability of linear-response theory, which may not be universally accepted. The proof of the complex formula for refractive index is not provided, and the discussion does not resolve the complexities involved.

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Hi
1)Does refractive index varies when we are dealing with different waves? for example the refractive index for a typical glass is 1.5 when a visible light passes through it. Does it the same for x rays?
2) there is a complex formula which describes the refractive index: n = 1- δ - iβ. how is the proof of this formula?
 
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1) Yes refractive index of a material varies with wavelength of the radiation incident on it.

Can't answer the 2nd question.
 
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Refractive index changes with variation of waves, yes. And that formula looks familiar, I think I saw it in Feynman's lecture in physics, but I don't think the proof was given there, the proof may be too complex.
 
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A quite simple model for the dielectric function of a homogeneous material (and thus the refraction index) is to assume a completely classical system of bound charges, which are only slightly disturbed by the incoming electromagnetic wave and thus linear-response theory is applicable. So you can just assume that the charges of the material are bound harmonically and have some "friction" (dissipation). It's a bit lengthy to work this out here. You find an excellent treatment of this classical dispersion theory in

A. Sommerfeld, Lectures on theoretical physics, vol. 4 (optics)
 
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alikazemi7 said:
2) there is a complex formula which describes the refractive index: n = 1- δ - iβ. how is the proof of this formula?
In general, refractive index can be complex, i.e. ##n=n_R+i\hspace{0.5mm}n_I##. This is because refractive index is defined as the square root of permittivity, while permittivity is a complex quantity.
$$
n=\sqrt{\epsilon} = \sqrt{1+\chi} = \sqrt{1+\chi_R+i\hspace{0.5mm}\chi_I}
$$
So, it's no surprise that you would find something like you wrote there.
 
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