Regarding transmission and reflection of EM-waves

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The discussion revolves around the boundary conditions for electromagnetic waves at an interface between two media, specifically in the context of a problem from Jackson's 'Classical Electrodynamics'. Participants explore the correct formulation of the continuity condition for electric fields when considering incident, reflected, and transmitted waves.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the inclusion of the reflected wave E_4 in the boundary condition equation, suggesting that it is not present at the first interface point.
  • Another participant challenges this view by stating that if the incoming light wave is a plane wave, it has infinite extent, implying that E_4 should be considered in the analysis.
  • The original poster expresses a realization about their misunderstanding after receiving clarification, indicating a shift in their perspective on the nature of the wave.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no explicit consensus reached among participants regarding the boundary condition formulation, as the original question about the inclusion of E_4 remains a point of discussion.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the assumptions about the nature of the wave (plane wave vs. localized beam) and how these assumptions affect the boundary conditions.

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Hello!
I´m trying to read Jacksons 'Classical Electrodynamics' and solving some problems. At the moment I´m stuck at problem 7.3. I started looking at suggested solutions (http://www-personal.umich.edu/~pran/jackson/P505/F07_hw11a.pdf) but I need some help I guess. Looking at how other people have done the boundary conditions at the first interface point (medium to air) with an electric field polarized perpendicular to the plane, they set up the condition of continuity as:
E_1 + E_2 = E_3 + E_4.
Where E_1 is the incident wave, E_2 the reflected, E_3 the transmitted, and E_4 the reflected wave of the second interface.

However the wave E_4 is never actually present at the first interface point! Why should we include this wave in the equation? It is reflected at the second interface point and then travels toward the medium again but at a distant point. Intuitional it seems to me that the boundary condition should be:
E_1 + E_2 = E_3.

Where does my logic fail? :confused:


Thanks in advance!
 
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However the wave E_4 is never actually present at the first interface point!

Are you sure about this? Probably the assignment says that the incoming light wave if a plane wave, which means it has infinite extent in the directions perpendicular to the direction of propagation. Unless the wave is a beam narrower than the gap.
 
Haha of course! I don't know why I was so obsessed with thinking about the whole wave as a arrow... Now everything makes sense, thanks Jano! :-)
 
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Great!
 

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