Regions; "Each point of the set is the center of a circle "

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the definition of a "region" in the context of set theory and topology, specifically focusing on the interpretation of the first condition that defines a region. Participants explore the implications of this condition and its relation to bounded and unbounded regions.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the first condition, questioning whether it implies that only an entire plane can be a region.
  • Another participant suggests that the condition does not mean every circle must be included, but rather that for any point in the region, there exists some distance such that all points within that distance are also in the region.
  • A third participant provides an example of a region, referencing a visual representation that illustrates the concept of an open set and path connectivity.
  • There is a mention of confusion regarding the term "enterior," with participants clarifying that the intended term was "interior."

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing interpretations of the first condition, indicating that multiple competing views remain regarding its implications for bounded regions.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion about terminology, specifically the use of "enterior" versus "interior," which may affect understanding of the conditions defining a region.

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"A set in the plane is called a region if it satisfies the following two conditions:
1. Each point of the set is the center of a circle whose entire enterior consists of points of the set.
2. Every two points of the set can be joined by a curve which consists entirely of points of the set."


I'm having trouble understanding the meaning of the first condition. Can someone please try to explain it in different words?

The way I'm understanding it, it seems to say that only an entire plane can be a region. (But this is obviously incorrect?)

How does the first condition allow for a bounded region?
 
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Nathanael said:
1. Each point of the set is the center of a circle whose entire enterior consists of points of the set.
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I'm having trouble understanding the meaning of the first condition. Can someone please try to explain it in different words?

The way I'm understanding it, it seems to say that only an entire plane can be a region. (But this is obviously incorrect?)

How does the first condition allow for a bounded region?

It says "a circle", not "every circle, no matter how large".
You could read it as saying that if a given point is in the region then there is some distance, perhaps not very large, such that every point closer than that distance to the given point is also in the region.
 
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http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Open_set_-_example.png

##U## in the picture is a region. It's open (condition 1) and path connected (condition 2). Note the (open) circle around ##x## (denoted ##B_\epsilon(x)##, standard notation for "ball of radius ##\epsilon## centered at ##x##") which is contained entirely within ##U##. The dotted boundaries are meant to indicate that they aren't included as part of ##U## and ##B_\epsilon(x)##.
 
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Thank you, I believe I understand now.

Edited;
Removed what I said because it wasn't what I meant (nor did it make much sense)
 
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The word "enterior" in your initial post confused me. I did not know if you meant "interior" or "exterior"! And your post seemed to indicate that you were confused about that also.
 
HallsofIvy said:
The word "enterior" in your initial post confused me. I did not know if you meant "interior" or "exterior"! And your post seemed to indicate that you were confused about that also.

Sorry! That was just a typo that I failed to notice. I indeed meant interior.
 

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