Regularity of Surface M and Matrix at Point P

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a surface M parametrized by a specific function and requires demonstrating the regularity of the surface and finding a matrix related to the shape operator at a given point P on the surface.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the cross product of the partial derivatives to determine regularity and express confusion about the implications of certain values of u. There is also uncertainty regarding the evaluation of the shape operator matrix and the basis used.

Discussion Status

Some participants have expressed confusion about the regularity condition and the implications of the boundaries of the parameter domain. There is an ongoing exploration of whether the norm of the vector product simplifies as expected, and participants are questioning the assumptions made regarding the parameterization.

Contextual Notes

The problem specifies a domain for u and v that excludes certain boundary values, which is a point of discussion among participants. There is also mention of needing to evaluate expressions at a specific point P, which may influence the calculations involved.

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Homework Statement



Consider the surface M parametrized by σ(u, v) = (sin u cos v, sin u sin v, 3 cos u), 0 < u < π, 0 < v < 2π.

(ii) Show that the surface is regular.

(iii) Let P = (\sqrt{2}/2, \sqrt{2}/2, 0) in M. Find the matrix Sp with respect to the basis {σu(P), σv(P)} in TP(M).

Homework Equations



Surface is regular if σu x σv does not equal zero at any point in the domain.

The Attempt at a Solution



σu = (cos v cos u, sin v cos u, -3 sin u)

σv = (-sin u sin v, sin u cos v, 0)

σu x σv = (3 cos v sin2u, 3 sin2u sin v, sin u cos u)

||σu x σv|| = sqrt{9 sin4u + sin2u cos2u}

Of course, it looks like the norm of the vector product should simplify further.

I'm also unsure about the given basis for the matrix of the shape operator. By direction calculation, the matrix contains expressions of the first and second fundamental forms. Do I evaluate the partials at the point P and use those in the inner product calculations?
 
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If u= 0 then \sigma_u\times \sigma_v= 0.
 
HallsofIvy said:
If u= 0 then \sigma_u\times \sigma_v= 0.

Yes. I'm a bit confused. It says to show that the surface is regular.
 
Shackleford said:
Yes. I'm a bit confused. It says to show that the surface is regular.

The original description excluded the boundaries ##u =0##, ##u = \pi##, ##v = 0##, ##v = 2 \pi##.
 
Ray Vickson said:
The original description excluded the boundaries ##u =0##, ##u = \pi##, ##v = 0##, ##v = 2 \pi##.

Okay. It doesn't look like any combination of u and v in the domain yields (0, 0, 0), so I can state that it is regular. However, it seems that the norm argument should simplify a bit more.
 
Shackleford said:
Okay. It doesn't look like any combination of u and v in the domain yields (0, 0, 0), so I can state that it is regular. However, it seems that the norm argument should simplify a bit more.

Who cares? You just want to know if it = 0 or not.
 
Ray Vickson said:
Who cares? You just want to know if it = 0 or not.

(iii) Let P = (\sqrt{2}/2, \sqrt{2}/2,0) in M. Find the matrix Sp with respect to the basis {σu(P), σv(P)} in TP(M).
 

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