Related rates & unknown factors

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The problem involves related rates in the context of a balloon being inflated at a constant volume rate. The original poster is trying to determine how fast the radius of the balloon is increasing when the radius is 3 inches.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to relate the volume increase of the balloon to the change in radius, expressing confusion over the relationship between these quantities. Some participants question the assumptions made regarding the relationship between volume and radius change, suggesting that the rate of radius change is not constant and depends on the balloon's size.

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Participants are exploring the implications of the chain rule in calculus as it applies to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the differentiation of the volume formula, and there is a recognition of the complexity of the relationship between volume and radius changes.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of the problem, specifically whether it is a calculus class and the application of the chain rule. There is also mention of potential misunderstandings regarding the physical implications of volume changes in relation to the balloon's radius.

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Homework Statement


Your blowing up a balloon at a rate of 300 cubic inches per minute. When the balloon's radius is 3 inches, how fast is the radius increasing?

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I know the answer to this question. It is approximately 2.65 inches per minute, what my question is; the area is 113.0973355 when the radius equals 3. when 300 and 2.65 are divided by 60 sec you find that the area is increasing at 5 inches per sec and the radius is increasing at 0.04416666667 per sec, tho when you input 3.04416666667 in the formula for a sphere the area comes out to be 118.1663682 just over 5 inches, what is this unknown factor that participates in the growth of the area or is this a physics problem, this continues to happen if you divide even further. It is the same thing for when you increase the radius of 3 by 2.65 and find the area which says it would be 300 cubic inches wider as the area increases at 300 cubic inches per minute but it is not.
 
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You're making a mistake in your assumptions. Specifically, you're assuming that just because the volume changes constantly with time, so too must the radius. You can see by a very quick application of the chain rule that this isn't true, but you can also think about it physically -- If you want to add 300 cubic inches of volume to a balloon, that will make the radius change a lot more when the balloon is empty than it will if the balloon is a mile wide.
 
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You're making a mistake in your assumptions. Specifically, you're assuming that just because the volume changes constantly with time, so too must the radius. You can see by a very quick application of the chain rule that this isn't true, but you can also think about it physically -- If you want to add 300 cubic inches of volume to a balloon, that will make the radius change a lot more when the balloon is empty than it will if the balloon is a mile wide.
Yes i see
 
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I assume this is a calculus class (correct me if I'm wrong). So the principle here is the Chain Rule.
##\frac {dV} {dt} = \frac {dV}{dr} \frac {dr} {dt} ##

You obtain the expression for ##\frac {dV}{dr}## by differentiating the formula for volume of a sphere with respect to the radius.
The rate you were given is ##\frac {dV}{dt}##. And you're being asked for ##\frac {dr}{dt}##, so you can easily solve for that by plugging in the other information.
 

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