Relationship between ln k and 1/t using different formula

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The discussion revolves around confusion regarding two different equations in chemistry that appear to contradict each other, specifically in the context of the Arrhenius equation and its implications for reaction kinetics and thermodynamics. The user highlights a scenario involving combustion, noting that the activation energy is above zero for an exothermic reaction, which leads to different graphical representations of the equations. The user questions how both equations can yield different slopes when plotted, particularly when both seem to refer to the same equilibrium constant (k) and temperature (t). The clarification provided indicates that the equations in question refer to different constants: one is related to the reaction rate constant (k) used in kinetics, while the other refers to the equilibrium constant (K) associated with thermodynamics. This distinction is crucial, as it resolves the apparent contradiction and highlights that the variables in the equations are not interchangeable. Understanding this difference is essential for correctly interpreting the equations and their implications in chemical reactions.
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Hi, I'm currently taking Chemistry 101 and came across this equation that seems to contradict what I've learned before. I don't know the name of it, but here is the equation and its implication.
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Now another equation we have learned is the Arrhenius equation, which is as follows:
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If I understood the equations correctly, they are referring to the same k (equilibrium constant) and the same t (temperature), which gave rise to something that seems to be wrong.

Take the example of combustion, where the activation energy is above 0 and is an exothermic reaction. The graph produced by the first equation will be one with a positive slope, but the one produced by the second equation is one with a negative slope, even though they have the same axis. To illustrate this further, if we somehow experimentally determined the ln k and 1/t (appears very often in our homework), we usually start by graphing them. The linear regression is seen (using Arrhenius equation) as -Ea/R, and we can, therefore, use it to find activation energy. But this same slope should also be -H / R, and therefore will lead to Ea = H, which is also obviously wrong.

What am I missing here? Are the K referring to different values?
 

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The equation in your first figures refers to the equilibrium constant and the heat of reaction. The equation in your 2nd figure refers to the reaction rate constant and the activation energy for the reaction.
 
Ethan Cheng said:
Are the K referring to different values?

Yes. One is often written as k (for kinetics), the other as K (for equilibrium).
 
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