Relationship between thickness, width and length

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a rectangular steel bar subjected to a tensile force, with participants exploring the relationship between its dimensions—length, width, and thickness—and how these relate to calculating the change in length under stress.

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  • Participants question the missing original length needed for calculations and discuss the appropriate dimensions to use for determining stress and strain. There is also inquiry into the correct formula for calculating the area relevant to the force applied.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing clarifications about the need for the original length and the definition of the cross-sectional area. There is acknowledgment of the limitations in answering the question without complete information.

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Participants note that the original length was not provided initially, and there is some confusion regarding the dimensions to use in calculations. The force applied is specified, but its direction and the corresponding area calculation remain under discussion.

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1.A rectangular steelbar of length subjected to tensile force of 80kN. Calculate the change in length if the width and thickness are (40 & 25)mm respectively. (E = 207 GN/m2).

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E= stress/strain
stress = F/A; F =80kN
strain = dL/L
3. I just want to know what to use for the original length. whether its the width or the thickness. And also the relationship between width, thickness and length if anyone can explain. Thank you.[/B]
 
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Neither. The original length appears to have been omitted from your question (by you or someone else?). Without that, you can't calculate the change in length. you can only calculate the strain (dL/L).
There is no "relationship" between width, thickness and length. You can make a steel bar of any L, w and t you like. But you need w and t to calculate the stress from the force.
80 kN is not the stress, it is the force. How do you work out A in the equation stress = F/A?
 
mjc123 said:
Neither. The original length appears to have been omitted from your question (by you or someone else?). Without that, you can't calculate the change in length. you can only calculate the strain (dL/L).
There is no "relationship" between width, thickness and length. You can make a steel bar of any L, w and t you like. But you need w and t to calculate the stress from the force.
80 kN is not the stress, it is the force. How do you work out A in the equation stress = F/A?
The Area is the width * thickness?
I've crosschecked and that's how the question is.
 
Then the question as it stands is impossible to answer. You can calculate the relative change in length (i.e. the strain).
 
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mjc123 said:
Then the question as it stands is impossible to answer. You can calculate the relative change in length (i.e. the strain).
my bad, the length is 2.5, just asked the lecturer again, for the area does that mean the length * width or still width * thickness
 
The relevant area is the cross-sectional area perpendicular to the direction of the force. I assume the force is in the direction of the length, though it doesn't explicitly say so.
 
mjc123 said:
The relevant area is the cross-sectional area perpendicular to the direction of the force. I assume the force is in the direction of the length, though it doesn't explicitly say so.
Okay, thanks
 

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