Tensile stress, radius and Young's modulus

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the radius of an aluminum cable subjected to a tensile force, with a specified elongation before failure. The context includes concepts of tensile stress and Young's modulus, which are critical in understanding material properties under stress.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relevant equations for tensile stress and Young's modulus, with some expressing uncertainty about their application. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of variables, particularly the change in length (ΔL) and its relationship to the original length.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the definitions and relationships between the variables involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equations, but there is no clear consensus on the correct approach to finding the radius.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that they have not fully covered tensile stress in class, which may contribute to their confusion. There is also mention of previous coursework and reliance on old notes, indicating a potential gap in understanding the current material.

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Homework Statement


An Aluminum cable of length 3.5m has 15,000 N tensile force acting on it if the wire is only allowed to be stretched by 1mm before it breaks,
What must be the radius of the wire if the Young's modulus of Al is 6.9 x 10^10 N/m^2?

I am also supposed to find the tensile stress, but I am sure I could find that myself after finding out the radius


Homework Equations


F/A or F/pi*R^2


The Attempt at a Solution


I haven't tried attempting the solution because I am not sure about the equation to use. We didn't learn about tensile stress in class or Young's modulus. I tried looking in my book and those are the equations I found, but most of the equations have a diameter or a radius already given.
 
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Did you read the section regarding Young's modulus or modulii of elasticity in your textbook? That will help you solve this problem.
 
I did look in my book and I my old notes. I just found my old notes because this is my second time taking Physics I. I thought there might be something in there. The book also shows that F/A = delta L/L. In my notes it mentions that delta L is the change in length over the original length. So would I say that delta L is the original length plus 1 mm (that I have to change to m) over the 3.5m? Then multiply that by the Young's modulus and that would be tensile stress? Although I still don't know how to find out the radius.
 
Delta represents the change. Do you think that Delta L represents L + 1 mm?
 
That's what I am thinking, but I don't know. I don't really have much else to go on. There might be more to go on and I just am not seeing it.
 
There's less going on. Delta L represents the change in the length L.
 
Gewitter_05 said:
I did look in my book and I my old notes. I just found my old notes because this is my second time taking Physics I. I thought there might be something in there. The book also shows that F/A = delta L/L. In my notes it mentions that delta L is the change in length over the original length. So would I say that delta L is the original length plus 1 mm (that I have to change to m) over the 3.5m? Then multiply that by the Young's modulus and that would be tensile stress? Although I still don't know how to find out the radius.

Have you come across the equation Y=\frac{FL}{AΔL}. If not, I suggest looking for it in your textbook or some other reliable book. This helps you solve the problem. (Y is the young's modulus here).

And as Steam King pointed out, ΔL is the change in length that the wire can tolerate here.
 

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