Relative Velocity, Rigid Body Kinematics

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The discussion revolves around calculating the absolute velocity (Va) of a point on a rotating disk using given angular velocity and acceleration. The user struggles with applying the formula Va = Woa x Rao + Vrel, leading to incorrect results. Key points include the importance of distinguishing between angular and linear velocities, as well as correctly applying trigonometric functions for the angles involved. Clarifications are provided on the relationship between angular velocity and tangential velocity, emphasizing the need for accurate vector representation. The conversation highlights common pitfalls in rigid body kinematics and the necessity of careful calculations.
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Homework Statement



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W(oa) = -5k
α(oa) = 3k
B = 30 deg
B(dot) = -2cos 30i + 2sin30j = Vrel
b(double dot) = 4cos30i - 4sin30j)

Homework Equations


Va = Woa x Rao + Vrel


The Attempt at a Solution



This is such a simple problem and I don't know why I am messing it up. I am just trying to figure out the Va part right now. I know the answer from the back is 4.38i + 7.58j

I did Va = W(oa) x R(ao) + Vrel solving for Va.
Va = -5k x 1.25(-cos30i + sin30j) + (-2cos 30i + 2sin30j)
Va = 3.125i + 5.4j - 1.73i - 1j

Va = 1.395i - 4.4j

This is what I am getting for Va but the answer is wrong. Can anyone point me in the right direction please?
 
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Please you explain your reasoning at each step?

So - by "absolute velocity" the mean the linear velocity.
What does the rotation of the disk have to do with the motion of the sphere? Are the beta figures supposed to be wrt the rotating frome of the disk?

In your equations you appear to be making angular velocity and angular acceleration equal to linear velocity and acceleration. What is the relationship between angular velocity and tangential velocity?

Note: sin(30°)=1/2, cos(30°)=(√3)/2
 
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yes by absolute velocity i mean linear velocity.

well I know that if point A was fixed, than Va = Woa x Rao. But since it is moving, Va = Woa x Rao + Vrel. I assume that Vrel is tangent to point A in the direction: 1.255i + 2.18j. and yes angular velocity is clockwise.
 
Please answer all the questions.

Did you mix up the sin and cos?
Consider, an object on a circular path 5" from the center, angular velocity 3rad/s clockwise, has a tangential velocity 15in/s right? When the angle is position 30deg anticlockwise from the horizontal, the velocity vector makes an angle of 60 degrees clockwise from the horizontal. sin(60)=cos(30).
(draw the pic)

hence: v= [-15sin(30)i+15cos(30)j]in/s = [-(7.5)i+(7.5√3)j]in/s
note: always include the units and you don't have to expand the √3 as 1.7321 until the very end.
 
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