Relativistic Energy in an Inverse Square Field: The Impact of Velocity

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for an inverse square field the force is proportional to 1/r^2

obviously we integrate over distance to get energy ≡ 1/r (where energy = 0 at infinity)

but what happens when velocity becomes relativistic?
is relativistic energy proportional to 1/r?if its any easier what I am really looking for is gamma as a function of r for an inverse square field and gamma = 1 at infinity
 
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Yes, if the force is proportional to 1/r^2, then the energy of the particle is proportional to 1/r. (Even in relativity).
 
wikipedia says that

KE = m0(gamma - 1)

so

gamma = KE + 1 = 1/r + 1
 
granpa said:
gamma = KE + 1 = 1/r + 1
Huh? How did you get this? Gamma is not a function of position.
 
its for an inverse square field where gamma = 1 at infinity

I'm assuming that KE = 1/r
 
granpa said:
wikipedia says that

KE = m0(gamma - 1)

so

gamma = KE + 1 = 1/r + 1

Wikipedia are using the convention of setting c=1. If you want to include c, then the equation is:
KE = m_0c^2(\gamma - 1)
So then you'd get:
\gamma = \frac{KE}{m_0c^2} + 1
And if we say gamma=1 when r=infinity, then KE=0 at r=infinity.
We know 1/r gives the change in energy of the particle. And assuming the rest mass of the particle doesn't change, then 1/r is proportional to the KE.

So then we have
\gamma = \alpha \frac{1}{r} + 1
Where I've left in the alpha as a constant of proportionality, since there is the rest mass, strength of the force and the speed of light which are all constants that must be taken in.
(So yes, I agree, as long as the constants are kept in, which also provide the correct dimensions)
 
granpa said:
I'm assuming that KE = 1/r
Oh, ok.
 
I've been told that the gravitational time dilation at any point in a gravitational field is equal to the time dilation that a particle falling from infinity to that point would experience due to its velocity alone.

Is that right?
 
I'm not sure, since I don't know much about general relativity.

According to wikipedia, the gravitational time dilation of an object at rest in the vicinity of a non-rotating massive spherically-symmetric object is:
\frac{1}{1-\frac{r_0}{r}}
Where r0 is the Schwarzschild radius of the massive object.
 
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http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/relativ/gratim.html

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where T is the time interval measured by a clock far away from the mass

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granpa said:
I've been told that the gravitational time dilation at any point in a gravitational field is equal to the time dilation that a particle falling from infinity to that point would experience due to its velocity alone.

Is that right?

Note that, if you want to talk about gravity in a relativistic manner, the 1/r potential is no longer a correct description.
 
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