Relativistic mechanics Taylor expansion

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The problem involves finding the first non-vanishing term in the Taylor expansion of the relative difference between the speed of a particle and the speed of light, specifically in the context of relativistic mechanics. The focus is on the limit of very large momentum compared to mass.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the meaning of "in the limit of very large momentum" and how it relates to performing a series expansion. There are attempts to express the speed in terms of momentum and energy, and questions arise about the correct form of the expansion.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing clarifications and suggestions for expressing the variables correctly. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct expression for the difference (c-v)/c, and there is an ongoing exploration of the Taylor expansion process.

Contextual Notes

There is a hint provided in the original problem statement to use (mc/p) as a small parameter for the expansion, which participants are considering in their discussions. The conversation reflects uncertainty about the initial steps in the expansion process.

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Homework Statement


For a particle traveling near the speed of light, find the first non-vanishing term in the expansion of the relative difference between the speed of the particle and the speed of light, (c-v)/c, in the limit of very large momentum p>>mc. Hint: Use (mc/p) as a small parameter for your expansion.

The Attempt at a Solution


I know the answer is (1/2)(mc/p)^2, but I'm not sure where this answer comes from. I understand the basic idea of expansions, however, I'm not sure as to what "in the limit of very large momentum" means. Can someone guide me through this problem?
 
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"In the limit of large momentum" means that the momentum is very large in comparison to the mass, i.e., exactly what the problem statement tells you. It means that the mass can be considered a small parameter in which you can perform a series expansion.
 
I understand that it means that momentum is very large compared to mass. However, I'm still not really sure where to begin with the actual expansion. Am I expanding the (c-v)/c?
 
Since you want the momentum to appear in your answer, try writing v/c in terms of momentum and energy.
 
Thanks for the help and sorry it has taken me so long to respond.
Okay, here's where I got with this.
v = (p/m)/(1+(p/mc)2)1/2
multiply the top and bottom by mc/p to get
c/(1+(mc/p)2)1/2
Then I tried using the known expansion (1+x)n = 1+nx+1/2(n-1)nx^2... where n=-1/2 and x=(mc/p)2 (and c will just be multiplied by each term).
So this all should yield:
c - 1/2*c*(mc/p)2 + 3/8*c*(mc/p)4.

This is not the correct answer so I'm still not quite sure what's going wrong with this.
 
This is your expression for v, not for (c-v)/c. Try expressing (c-v)/c using what you already obtained for v. (Also, neglect the term proportional to m^4 c^4/p^4 ...)
 
Oh so the c's cancel out leaving the desired first term! Thanks for the help
 

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