Rent a manual stick shift car in US?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of renting a manual stick shift car in the United States, particularly for someone looking to practice driving. Participants share their experiences and suggestions regarding rental options, alternatives for practice, and the challenges associated with learning to drive a manual transmission.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that very few rental companies offer manual transmission vehicles, with premium companies like Hertz being among the rare exceptions.
  • One participant suggests purchasing a cheap car for practice, citing that many rentals have ceased offering manuals due to damage from inexperienced drivers.
  • Another proposes contacting local car dealers who may have manual cars available for rent, as they might have extra inventory not typically offered by rental companies.
  • Concerns are raised about the tendency for rental companies to avoid manual cars because they are often rented by individuals learning to drive, which can lead to excessive wear on the clutch.
  • Some participants share personal anecdotes about learning to drive manual cars and suggest alternative methods, such as using motorcycles for practice.
  • There is mention of the challenges of driving in hilly areas, particularly in cities like San Francisco, which can complicate learning to drive a stick shift.
  • One participant humorously notes the potential for confusion when transitioning from manual to automatic driving, particularly regarding foot placement on the pedals.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that renting a manual stick shift car is challenging in the US, with multiple competing views on alternative solutions and methods for practicing driving. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to finding a manual rental.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of availability of manual cars in rental fleets, the potential for damage during practice, and the varying experiences of participants based on their locations and driving backgrounds.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals looking to learn how to drive a manual transmission, those planning road trips in the US, or anyone interested in the logistics of renting vehicles with manual gearboxes.

  • #31
Woopydalan said:
They certainly are doing strong in Europe, I noticed when I went on a trip there last summer almost everyone is driving a manual transmission. I'm not sure why the ''car culture'' is different in Europe than the United States, but in my opinion it is a little silly to drive a manual car if you have the option to drive automatic.

Cheaper, mechanically more simple, generally quicker, better economy, you can bump start it if the starter dies. You can also control the slip of the clutch so you have more control pulling away in adverse conditions.

Generally europeans drive smaller cars, drive less distance and do a lot of stop start city driving. All of which carry a penalty if you have an auto due to the slipping torque converter.

Long highway journeys and heavier cars are affected less.


It depends how you view a car. If it's purely a means of getting from point a to point b, then an auto makes sense. If you enjoy the act of driving a manual does make you feel more connected.
 
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  • #32
A manual is easier on the gas, but, as already noted, is not so easy to milk that extra mileage out anymore. The weight difference is not that significant.
 
  • #33
Monique said:
I don't know about that, what I know is that a manual is more fuel efficient than an automatic transmission. As you indicate that might change with new technology, but a manual can also be fitted with extra gears (6th is becoming more common). In addition, a manual transmission is more easy to maintain and it give much better control over the vehicle.

That was the conventional wisdom in the old days. But US automatics now have so-called 'lock-up' torque converters which provide a direct connection between the engine and transmission (similar to the clutch plate in manual box) once cruising speed has been reached. This feature reduces a lot of the gas mileage penalty of older automatics v. manual gear boxes. The newer auto trans. with 8 speeds also keep the engine speed from varying widely between shifts, which is also a mileage killer. And auto trans. come with overdrives as well, further closing the gap.

Manual transmission gives you an option what gear to drive in: do you need a lot of power in a situation (such as entering a highway) or little power (when driving a priority road). Normally one would drive 3rd gear on a 50 km/h road (30 mph), but when the situation permits it one can change to the 4th or 5th gear and the engine will almost run stationary.

Most people just put an auto. trans. in 'Drive' and forget about it. However, if you run into a situation where a lower gear is desired (for additional traction on slick roads for example), most automatics let you select a 'Drive 1' or 'Drive 2', where the auto doesn't shift completely thru the gears in this selection. Overdrive auto. trans. also have a switch where you can disable this feature as well.

I once had to drive an old Ford Mustang with a 3-speed automatic w/o snow tires or chains on slick/snowy roads in NY state. On level roads, it was dicey, but if even a slight hill was encountered, you were in trouble. What I did was to shift into 'Drive 2' and gently ease up any hill at low speed, being careful not to start spinning the tires.
 
  • #34
Monique said:
Manual transmission gives you an option what gear to drive in:

There is a basic difference in "driving style" there. With a manual transmission, you select the gear you need for acceleration, before you need the power. With an automatic, you just poke the gas pedal and wait for "the system" to react.

Automatic transmission is great in the right place. Driving a farm tractor with a 32-speed automatic box, when you can just set the speed you want to travel while working and let the system play with the gears as the load varies, is one thing. Driving a car is something else.
 

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