Required force for sphere start rolling

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The discussion centers on the force required to initiate rolling motion in a sphere compared to a cube on the same surface. It is established that the force needed to slide the cube equals the static friction force, μs⋅m⋅g. For the sphere, the required force to start rolling is theorized to be less than this static friction force, as it also involves rolling resistance. The conversation emphasizes the importance of considering torques at the point of contact with the surface to determine the applied force necessary for rolling. Understanding these dynamics is crucial for accurately calculating the forces involved in rolling motion.
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Homework Statement
What is the required applied force to the center of mass of the sphere for it to start rolling on a surface?
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μ[SUB]s[/SUB]⋅m⋅g
Assume there are two objects on the same surface, one is a cube and the other is a sphere. Both objects have the same mass m. The required applied force to the center of mass of the cube for it to start sliding should be equal to static friction force: μsmg.

But what is the required applied force to the center of mass of the sphere for it to start rolling? I assume it should be less than static friction force: μsmg?
 
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This depends on rolling resistance, not friction (apart from that friction needs to be large enough for the ball to roll rather than slide).
 
eyeweyew said:
But what is the required applied force to the center of mass of the sphere for it to start rolling? I assume it should be less than static friction force: μsmg?
Consider torques about the point of contact with the surface. What torques are there?
 
Kindly see the attached pdf. My attempt to solve it, is in it. I'm wondering if my solution is right. My idea is this: At any point of time, the ball may be assumed to be at an incline which is at an angle of θ(kindly see both the pics in the pdf file). The value of θ will continuously change and so will the value of friction. I'm not able to figure out, why my solution is wrong, if it is wrong .
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